mirrored file at http://SaturnianCosmology.Org/ For complete access to all the files of this collection see http://SaturnianCosmology.org/search.php ========================================================== Red Earth, White Lies Bombshell Frontal Assault on Yuppie Science I almost don't know where to start with this one. Usually when I go looking for a book which a friend or somebody I know has written I have to order it. In this case, I found twenty copies of the book in question sitting at the Borders store in Rockville Md. Vine Deloria is well known, and not some fringe science writer. He has held the position of Chairman of the National Council of American Indians, and is the author of the familiar "Custer Died for Your Sins". Roger Dunsmore, author of the Dictionary of Native American Literature wrote: "Vine Deloria, Jr., is the most significant voice in this generation regarding the presentation and analysis of contemporary Indian affairs, their history, their present shape and meaning." Renee Sansom Flood, author of Lost Bird of Wounded Knee, notes: "In Red Earth, White Lies, Vine Deloria, Jr., masterfully challenges the accepted but grossly inaccurate scientific theories of evolution, radiocarbon dating techniques, and the Bering Strait migration hoax. He warns coming generations of scientists, both Indian and white, not to repeat the ethnocentric omissions of the past by ignoring Indian oral tradition. ... I have been waiting for this book all of my adult life." I should start by noting that Red Earth, White Lies is a fun book to read. If you can picture a serious scholar (rare enough in itself these days) who is also a gifted speaker and writer and is capable of writing on and clarifying sometimes complex topics with something like the dry wit of a Paddy J. O'Rourke, you'll have a bit of an idea of what's in store. At the Ceno-Catastrophism convention in Portland a year ago, Deloria told me that he was tremendously interested in my own presentation regardinng sauropod dinosaurs, the mathematical and physical demonstration that nothing heavier than 21,000 lbs. or thereabouts could even stand in our present world, much less walk around. He noted that he had been researching a major project, a compendium of Indian oral traditions and folklore, and had been out for what sounded like the last 20 years or so speaking with every chief, every shaman, every medicine man, storyteller, and keeper of oral traditions of every tribe in North America. He noted that if there was anything which used to totally floor him at first, it was the extent to which virtually every one of these tribes retained descriptions of pliestocene megafauna and, more often than not, dinosaurs. If any of that is true, than much of what scientists think they know about the history of our Earth is certainly wrong and grossly so. Any tool works better at some applications than at others. A chainsaw, for instance, works quite well on trees, and poorly on steel I-beams. Likewise our current science, with its compartmentalization of knowledge appears well-adapted for various kinds of technological applications, and is at its best at complex projects such as the Manhatten Project, or computer technology. It is precisely when modern science turns its attention to questions of origins, and of the ultimate nature of reality, that this same specialization of disciplines and sub-disciplines and compartmentalization of knowledge, become an insuperable barrier to understanding. Deloria notes that: "Fragmentation of human knowledge by science means that most explanations must be constructed on an ad hoc basis with the hope that use of the scientific method will guarantee that all bits of data are ultimately related. Unfortunately, the day of the philosopher in Western society has passed and no single group today serves the function of surveying the totality of knowledge and trying to bring it into a coherent and simple explanation which can be made available to the rest of society. DeLoria notes that the most major difference between the ways in which Indians and Western scientists view our physical world is that scientists see the universe primarily as an inanimate collection of atoms and molecules, ourselves a temporary abberation caused by chance associations of inert material, while it is self-evident to Indians that the universe itself, us included, is a living thing. That whites originally adknowledged this obvious reality is inherent in our Indo-European languages with the exception of English which was stripped of grammar deliberately, i.e. in the fact that all manner of things which we are conditioned to view as inanimate all have gender in language. The general world-view of what I call yuppie science includes as major tenets such things as the Big-Bang, the nebular theory of our solar system along with the assumption of a 3 billion - 7 billion year age for our Earth, uniformitarianism in geology (now grudgingly including a few minor catastrophes, asteroids etc., provided they are placed some psychologically comfortable distance into the past), and the theory of evolution by stochastic processes, guided by "natural selection", whatever that's supposed to be. Moreover, the general world-view and axiomatic system has logical corrolaries of a parochial nature, logical fallouts from the general system which are necessary to insert into every localized system. In the case of the Americas, these local corrolaries include the idea of Indians as well as animal species having migrated across the Bering Straits, and this is driven by the theory of evolution and the fact that no Neanderthals or other possible human ancesters are found in the Americas. The notion of Indian ancestors having killed off the North American megafauna is also part of the system because the system does not allow for recent large-scale catastrophism. The idea is frighteningly stupid on the face of it. Killing off all of the mammoths and other giant animals would require firepower, organization, logistics, and mobility which nobody in the Americas ever had. Even if Indian ancestors had had automatic weapons, they could not have exterminated the megafauna on foot; the herds would have simply filled in behind them. Nonetheless, this belief is part of the system. We have seen challenges to individual pieces of this system; we've seen Velikovsky's challenge to notions of solar-system stability, and Michael Denton's challenge to evolution. Red Earth, White Lies is more than that. Red Earth, White Lies is a massive frontal assault upon the entire ediface of yuppie science. Deloria heavily documents the fact that many if not all of these tenets of yuppie science are not only stupid and massively so, but should probably be categorized as ethnocentric and racist to boot. Regarding the supposed killout of megafauna, he notes that: Since these events, if they did indeed occur, happened some 12,000 to 15,000 years ago, why should it matter? It matters immensely because the image which science has given American Indians is such that modern Indians are blamed for the extinction of these creatures. Conservative newspaper columnists, right-wing fanatics, sportsmen's groups, and scholars in general tend to see the "overkill" hypothesis as symptomatic of a lack of moral fiber and ethical concern for the Earth among Indians... I can speak here from firsthand personal knowledge. In 1990, I was invited to speak at Stanford University, trumpeted as the "Harvard of the West," to celebrate its one hundredth anniversary. I was asked to speak on the Indian relationship with the land, and I tried as best I could to outline the philosophical principles I thought would be meaningful to the audience and the values I thought were involved in the Indian perspective on the natural world. The first question from the audience when I finished was a person asking whether I didn't think running hundreds of buffalo over a cliff was wasteful. The tone of the question implied that the previous weekend myself and other invited Indian speakers had destroyed hundreds of bison somewhere in Wyoming. Since the only recent slaughter of buffalo that I could remember was the Super Bowl, I took offense and refused to answer any more questions. The chapter dealing with this problem is titled "Mythical Pliestocene Hit Men". Deloria makes a total shambles of the Bering Strait hypothesis, the overkill hypothesis, and any number of other sheboliths to boot, and describes clear instances of Indian knowledge of geological events which are conventionally dated in the millions of years, as well as clear descriptions down to the red fur and saw-blade back of stegosaurs. This is a book for the ages; a book about Indians and tribal peoples, about catastrophism, and about the failings of our modern science. Don't miss it. Ted Holden medved at digex.com