mirrored file at http://SaturnianCosmology.Org/ For complete access to all the files of this collection see http://SaturnianCosmology.org/search.php ========================================================== Children learn language from adults who, on meeting a child, always test the level of the child's language abilities and then switch to a 'caretaker language' to continue conversing. A 'caretaker language' is grammatically slightly advanced beyond the level where the child is at. People who 'baby-talk' to children are those who have made no effort to guage the child's current abilities. What Jaynes suggests is that consciousness is similarly learned. He places it at about age 7 or 8. It involves recognizing yourself as seen by others - an analog 'I' which is then internalized and placed into the spaces of the imagination and can vault through time. You can actually watch parents make these suggestions to small children. Since it is learned, it is cultural, rather than biological. Having to meet strangers forces a recognition that others might have consciousness, and that they might see this in you. It results in the creation of an analog 'I' as the way others see you, and by reflection as a way you imagine yourself. It is instructive to observe children 4 to 7 year old, although the state of consciousness depends very much on their verbal abilities and thus on the interaction they have with their parents and others. Pre-conscious children have recognizable behaviour patterns which might be reflected in the following to various degrees: * - They often have hopelessly inadequate concepts of space and travel time ("Are we there yet?"). Experience with travel modifies that. * - They will interrupt adult conversations with non-sequitors, for there is no ability to narratize the present as a mental space in which they can fit themselves and observe the (real) space as if from afar (that is, in the mind), and to narratize into that mental space what others might hear or might be thinking at the moment. * - They lack any clear memory of the past except for events they have been told about and some critical events which may have been reenacted mentally. Pre-language memories are almost entirely absent in everyone. * - They show little of the self-consciousness which would result in being able to see yourself from an exterior perspective. * - The imagination exercised in play is often unbounded by reality and often lacks a measure of time. Importantly, the play space often lacks themselves as an involved actor. * - They are often very opinionated, blurting out the opinions of their parents in lieu of any original 'thinking' on a subject, a trait which often caries far into adulthood. Original thoughts on a particular subject would involve being able to create imagined spaces for action in the mind, and walking an analog 'I' through these spaces to evaluate alternative outcomes. Yet children are fully functional. They learn to read, do math, learn skills, they learn how things work, and how to interact with others. They can create and appreciate jokes. But the guide to their actions are the parental admonitions which were heard, remembered, and recalled. It is in fact the right hemisphere which does this for any predictable situation.