http://SaturnianCosmology.Org/ mirrored file For complete access to all the files of this collection see http://SaturnianCosmology.org/search.php ========================================================== nntp2http.com Posting *Von: bearAssistant (bigbear at bearfabrique.org) Datum: 30.10.2006 00:55 This is being posted to a number of groups in which there have been recent discussions of Immanuel Velikovsky and/or one or more versions of a Saturn-based solar system theory such as you read about on: http://www.thunderbolts.info http://www.kronia.com http://grazian-archive.com/Quantavol.htm or http://saturniancosmology.org/intro.php: "...Earth, Mars, and Neptune all have their axes of rotation at 24 to 25 degrees from the rotational axis of the Sun, as does the giant planet Saturn. This should not be. We would expect all the planets in the Solar System to have their spin axes pointing in the same up and down direction as the Sun. And, in fact, the spin axes of the rest of the planets, and all of the 134 satellites of all the planets, point in the same direction as their parent planet, with only a few rare exceptions. [note 1] "The divergent and nearly identical inclination of the spin axes of these four planets was one of the first clues that our Solar System is a composite of two systems....." The Velikovsky controversy is still going on. What Charles Ginenthal and I have done is to make a fairly large selection of reading materials on some of these topics available on the web in the form of downloadable ebooks, at prices below what people used to pay for communist literature in the old CCCP. As Rush would say, for those of you in Loma Linda, that's cheap. The download site is: http://bearfabrique.org/books/books.html Offerings include a two-volume collection of writings and essays called "Cosmology Wars", and a little book dealing with the nature of gravity and the question of whether the larger dinosaurs could live in present gravity. There are two elephant-in-the-living-room type problems with the accepted idea of gravity as a property of mass and space. One is that there is no way to start with that and believe that gravity near the surface of our own planet could have ever undergone any sort of a substantial change, but it is an easy demonstration that it has. The second involves Einsteins claim that information cannot be transmitted faster than the speed of light, while gravity is known to propagate instantaneously to within our abiliity to measure it. Obviously, whenever you take five steps, you are sending some sort of a gravitational message out into the cosmos, a great deal faster than C. There might be a third thing which doesn't jibe with Einstein's notion of gravity if you count Eugene Podkletnov and the USAF/Boeing GRASP project. The most recent thing which a cursory Google search turned up on Podkletnov indicates at least a claim of having working models of a gravity beam device which, conceivably, could be used as a defensive weapon to knock down katyusha rockets and the like. http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2004/08/04/6900035EugenePodkletnov/ In other words, it's at least possible that some of these seemingly harebrained ideas might actually have real consequences. An idea of the extent to which the Japanese are interested in these topics and their ramifications can be glimpsed from a few slides from a program which was shown on prime time on a Sunday in 04: http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/sauropods/japanscreens/index.htm [ Auf dieses Posting antworten <#> ] Antworten * Enrique Castanaveras (12.11.2006 21:31)