Essays Relating To The History Of Occidental Constellations and Star Names to the Classical Period _________________________________________________________________ Critics and Criticisms of Hamlet's Mill by Gary D. Thompson Copyright © 2004-2013 by Gary D. Thompson _________________________________________________________________ Return To Site Contents Page _________________________________________________________________ Part 1: The Book and the Authors: Context and Critique 1999 Italian-language edition of Hamlet's Mill , which was translated/edited by Alessandro Passi and comprised a new and expanded edition (630 pages). The authors of Hamlet's Mill: Giorgio de Santillana (30.5.1902-8.6.1974) and Hertha von Dechend (5.10.1915-23.4.2001) at MIT circa 1967/1968 - photographed in de Santillana's office. (Photographs used with the written permission of the copyright holder.) Introduction to Hamlet's Mill Hamlet's Mill is a very curious book of mythological speculation. (Chaotic in both structure and explanation.) There is a complete lack of organization to the book. The book begins with discussions of medieval legends (starting with Hamlet) without any explanation of why this is being done. The first introduction of an astronomical discussion is placed in an "Intermezzo" (no chapter number) after Chapter 4. The first clear introduction of the astronomical thesis comprising the book is placed nearly halfway through the book. The authors seek to justify this on the grounds that the archaic way of thought being discussed was not itself an organized system. However, this simply ignores the duty of good authors to clearly present unsystematic material in a systematic way. The central premise is somewhat odd. Through adoption of a 'cherry-picking' approach the authors of Hamlet's Mill claim to present the key to decoding early man's mythological imagination - ancient myths can be interpreted as a code language expressing the astronomical knowledge of precession of the equinoxes among early cultures. More specifically, (1) world mythologies are based on celestial (planetary) events, and (2) precession forms the setting for astronomical mythologies. Though somewhat vague, the authors propose that initial knowledge of precession originated circa 5000 BCE during a 'Golden Age' in the Neolithic Near East, with the commencement of a major calendrical system. Both the authors are ultra-diffusionists. Nothing in the book provides conclusive evidence for its claims. However that does not prevent the misguided claim: "De Santillana and von Dechend have made a special study of ancient knowledge regarding the Precession of the Equinoxes. (The Shape of Ancient Thought by Thomas McEvilley (2002, Page 80.)" Also, the book is lengthy, dense, and poorly constructed. Simply, it lacks a cogent argument. The knowledge of astronomy and philology exhibited by both the authors is inadequate for the task. It has been called a 'notorious New Age classic.' At one time it was used at the University of Melbourne as a text book for history of science studies. Its content proved impenetrable to students. However, theories about astral myths continue to captivate people. This essay is a dispassionate examination - and critical review - of the authors and their book. The authors of the book have attained a somewhat mythical status as cutting edge (progressive) academics. The collaboration between Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend Giorgio de Santillana spent the last 10 years of his life collaborating with Hertha von Dechend. (In his 1970 letter to the New York Review of Books de Santillana stated that writing Hamlet's Mill "involved ten years of specific studies in technical astronomy, ancient and archaeological history and myth.") Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend received supportive funding for much of their their research in the nature of a grant from the Twentieth Century Fund. (However, a number of other persons, both MIT students and academics, were also involved in the research for the book.) Hamlet's Mill is basically and attempt to re-introduce some of the basic ideas of Panbabylonism. The two key ideas of Panbabylonism that the authors attempt to revive are (1) Mesopotamian establishment of an equally divided, 12-constellation zodiac by circa 4000 BCE, and (2) Mesopotamian knowledge of the effects (at least) of precession (and the incorporation of such into ancient mythological themes), by circa 4000 BCE. Abe Aronow, a student at MIT from 1958 to 1962, knew Giorgio de Santillana, Hertha von Dechend, and Harald Reiche. (He also participated in some of the research for Hamlet's Mill. In her 1961 seminar notes Hertha von Dechend openly invites interested listeners to help in the research.) He recollects that Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins (2 Volumes; 1833-1836, Reprinted 1965) was a favourite book of Hertha von Dechend. According to her co-worker Yas Maeyama (UniReport 5, 2001) in his obituary for von Dechend, her insights developed through close cooperation with Leo Frobenius (1873-1938), Wily Hartner (1905-1981), and Giorgio de Santillana (1902-1974). I believe this is very much a misunderstanding and an attempt at establishing a pedigree for her her ideas. There is no doubt she was influenced by Leo Frobenius. There is no doubt she influenced both Willy Hartner and Giorgio de Santillana. The last joint publication by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend The last joint publication by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend was a conference paper that appeared in 1970. I am not aware of who presented the paper. (See: "Sirius as a permanent center in the archaic universe." by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend. In: Enrico Castelli (Editor). Eternità e storia (1970). (Pages 235-263). The publication in which the paper appears is a collection of 1968 conference papers presented in Rome. Other details: I Valori Permanenti nel Divenire Storico. Atti del Convegno Internationale promosso delT Istituto Accademico di Roma, Roma 3.-6.10.1968.) Work on the manuscript of Hamlet's Mill Work on the manuscript of Hamlet's Mill had begun in 1967. (In his book Secrets of the Great Pyramid (1971) Peter Tompkins write: "About ten years ago I exchanged manuscripts with Hertha von Dechend, who was then beginning to write her book Hamlet's Mill." I am disinclined to believe she had any kind of working manuscript circa 1961. It is more likely she only had seminar notes for that year. According to a 1977 article in Technology Review (published by MIT) "for the past twenty years Professor von Dechend has been comparing and assembling the pieces of an immense puzzle ....") It would seem, however, that the ideas of Hamlet's Mill were first publicly put forward by de Santillana in an address given at a 1961 symposium in England. (See his presentation: "On Forgotten Sources in the History of Science" In: Crombie, A. (Editor). Scientific Change (1963), Pages 813-828, with participant commentary in succeeding pages. The book comprises the Symposium on the History of Science at the University of Oxford, 9-15 July, 1961. In the content of the book he acknowledges his great debt to Hertha von Dechend (who declined to be acknowledged as a joint author) and considers it a joint paper. Incredibly, he considered Charles Dupuis a reliable authority on ancient astronomy. Later, in Hamlet's Mill, he claimed only a fleeting familiarity with Charles Dupuis.) Interestingly, Hertha von Dechend is listed as a member of the 1961 Symposium - but Giorgio de Santillana is not. (Amongst the listed papers of Joseph Needham held at Cambridge (England) the following record appears: Title: Joseph Needham's notes from a talk on 'astral myths' by Herta (sic) von Dechend at a Symposium in Oxford; Reference: SCC2/69/1/28; Covering Dates: 13 July 1961; Extent and Medium: 1 document; Paper.) The committee of the Associazione Culturale Italiana invited de Santillana to give a lecture in Turin in March, 1963, entitled "Fato antico e fato moderno" ("Ancient and Modern Ideas of Fate"). One of the major points of the lecture was the idea that "the great cosmological myths both preceded and had been the equivalent of modern science." ("When lecturing in Italy in 1963 Giorgio de Santillana restated the theory that a scientific hypothesis precedes the formulation of a myth." (Understanding Italo Calvino by Beno Weiss (1993, Page 95).)) In the Preface to his book Reflections on Men and Ideas (1968) Giorgio de Santillana mentions a forthcoming book by himself in collaboration with Hertha von Dechend with the (working) title An Introduction to Archaic Cosmology. De Santillana presented similar ideas at an international colloquium organised by UNESCO (Science and Synthesis (Published 1971)). He presented on modern cosmologies within the historical perspective of the ancient cosmological doctrines: "The Great Cosmological Doctrines." The 'assembly' of Hamlet's Mill It is usually stated that the book was basically written by Giorgio de Santillana. However, Hertha von Dechend states that she worked on the manuscript of the book during the 1960s. (This is supported by comments by Harald Reiche in his essay included in the book Astronomy of the Ancients (1979) edited by Kenneth Brecher and Michael Feirtag.) Whilst deemed a collaborative work the greater content and framework of ideas are those of Hertha von Dechend. There is little doubt that the numerous lengthy appendices were exclusively written by Hertha von Dechend. (This is stated by Santillana within the Preface of the book, see page viii.) It is also easy to discern that the greater contents of the book are von Dechend's work and owes much to her early MIT seminars. (It is a mistake to think the first two-thirds of the book is the work of de Santillana and the last one-third (the appendices) is the work of von Dechend. Almost the entire book is closely based on von Dechend's MIT lecture/seminar notes.) During 1961, 1966, and 1979 Hertha von Dechend (when a research associate at MIT) delivered (or help to deliver) seminars on ancient cosmology at MIT. (It is likely that the 1979 seminar was organised by Harald Reiche.) It appears that for all of these occasions she was hosted i.e., stayed as a house guest with a MIT faculty member. (An ex-student of de Santillana, who was a student at MIT from 1962 to early 1966, states that a least during most of the first half of the 1960s von Dechend was a frequent (though largely unidentified) presence in de Santillana's office. Richard Flavin advises that she most often stayed with Harald Reiche and his wife. It appears she also stayed with Jayant Shah and his wife over many years.) (Her lecture notes for these seminars were available for a time and they are full of errors regarding both spelling and sense.) The basic role of Giorgio de Santillana as "co-author" was evidently that of editing her English-language material. The problem of the book being poorly organised, and lacking unity and coherence, undoubtedly largely originates from the combination of von Dechend's MIT lecture notes being poorly organised and also the fact that de Santillana was seriously ill at the time of his involvement in the preparation of the manuscript of the book. However, de Santillana's collaborative connection with von Dechend probably had its roots in their 1958 meeting. Undoubtedly, he was probably interested in the theme of an astronomical basis for mythology prior to their 1958 meeting. His somewhat independent thoughts on the issue appeared briefly in his book The Origins of Scientific Thought (1961). De Santillana attempted to marshall the material that is available on the prehistoric origins of science. In this book he attempts to sift out and collect the material available on the prehistoric origins of science. He begins with mythology and and attempts to show its astronomical significance. In the book de Santillana holds the origin of Greek science (especially astronomy) can be traced to the Neolithic period. Aspects of the book present a radical and unconventional view of the origins of Greek science. (Edward Madden, Professor of Philosophy at the State University of New York at Buffalo, wrote a book review of The Origins of Scientific Thought.) See also: "Geek Astronomy." by George de Santillana in Scientific American, (Volume 180?), April, 1949, Pages 44-47. It appears reasonable to assume that during the early 1960s the (flawed) work of the British astronomer Joseph Lockyer (The Dawn of Astronomy (1894)) on the astronomical alignments of Egyptian temples also influenced de Santillana's ideas. Giorgio de Santillana wrote a new and extensive Preface for the 1964 reprint issued by MIT Press. In this Preface de Santillana sketched some of his ideas on archaic astronomy and the astronomical content of mythology. In the Preface de Santillana also expressed his belief that Egyptian temple re-alignment was due to their exact knowledge of the rate of precession. (It appears that Giorgio de Santillana also believed the alphabet originated from astronomy and games.) Phil Norfleet, at his website(s) containing his recollections of Giorgio de Santillana (which seems to take information and leads from my website material, - nowhere acknowledged - certainly use of a copyright photograph of de Santillana without permission or credit) writes (http://waite2051.tripod.com/): "I first became aware of the Mithraic Mysteries in the early 1960s, when I took two seminars given by the well-known MIT professor of the history of science, Giorgio de Santillana (1902-1974). At that time I was a very young college undergraduate who had been fortunate enough to convince Professor de Santillana that I should be permitted to take his seminars, which were usually reserved for graduate students only. At that time, Professor de Santillana was at the peak of his intellectual powers; in 1961 he had published what I believe was his finest book: The Origins of Scientific Thought from Anaximander to Proclus, 600 B.C. to 500 A.D. He was a good lecturer and was even better in the give and take discussions of the seminar room. A great deal of reading and essay writing was required, but it was very interesting to me and I enjoyed making the necessary extra effort. The main focus of the course was on the early Greek philosophers, who flourished from about 600 to 300 B.C. Professor de Santillana took the position that they had been extremely important in laying the intellectual foundation for the European scientific revolution of the 17th century. We only spent a day or two in discussing the Mithras cult and its significance to the philosophical and astronomical thinking of the Roman Empire. Even so, I do recall at least some of his ideas regarding the connection between the main Mithraic myths and the astronomical knowledge of the time. Many years later, in 1970, I acquired a copy of his last book, which he had co-authored with Dr. Hertha von Dechend (1915-2001) entitled: Hamlet's Mill, An Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time. Unfortunately, I was more than a little disappointed in the lack of clarity and poor organization of the book. His main thesis was one which he had also expressed during his seminar; unfortunately, this published work lacked both focus and clarity. I later found out that Professor de Santillana was in failing health at the time and that most of the chapters in the book had really been written by his younger but less well organized colleague.* One area of almost total omission was a discussion of the Mithras belief system, even though this belief system was almost overflowing with astronomical/astrological ideas. Indeed, there was only one reference to Mithra (Mithras) which appeared on pages 263 and 264 of the book (see quotation cited in the Introduction Section). I have recently renewed my interest in the Mithraic belief system after reading the online, current edition of the Rosicrucian Digest; the entire issue is devoted to Mithras. The purpose of this website is to discuss my ideas concerning this rather strange mystery school and also record the ideas of Professor de Santillana on this subject, to the extent that I am able to recall them. It is to the memory of Giorgio Diaz de Santillana that I dedicate this website. * By my reckoning, only six of the 23 chapters were written or mostly written by Giorgio!" John Major Jenkins writes (http://edj.net/mc2012/mill1.htm): "Giorgio de Santillana published a book of his own the previous year and was still lecturing at M.I.T., so his work load during the late 1960s must have been intense." Publication of Hamlet's Mill Apart from Giorgio de Santillana being seriously ill when he put the manuscript of the book together (his health had began failing quite rapidly) the process of publication itself was apparently a nightmare with material and notes to the publisher becoming lost. In his book The Media Symplex (2004, Page 68) Frank Zingrone states: "Professor de Santillana worked on editing von Dechend when he was sick and near death .... de Santillana ... was furiously working to finish the book before he died. He just barely managed to do that; it was an heroic battle won with the energetic help of his collaborator, Hertha von Dechend." (This simply repeats the information - with a bit added on - given by William Thompson in his book The Time Falling Bodies Take to Light (1996, Page 268). Also see pages 268-270.) After looking through several years of Hertha von Dechend's MIT seminar notes it is painfully obvious there is nothing there in the way of an organised, clear, and connected argument. No clearly defined trail is being blazed by von Dechend.) It is likely that de Santillana died of a tobacco/smoking related disease. (He was a smoker all of his life. The portrait photograph accompanying the obituary by his friend Nathan Sivin in the journal Isis, 1976, shows him holding a cigarette between fingers in his right hand. Other photographs also show him smoking.) In the Winter-semester 1954-1955 Hertha von Dechend was involved in compiling and editing notes - with Ralph Marcus (University of Chicago) - regarding the Frankfurt-Chicago-Seminar "Östliches und Westliches Denken in der Spät-antike und im Mittelalter." held at the Universität Frankfurt. It would be interesting to see the state of these notes. (It appears these notes were published in 1955.) Publishing history of Hamlet's Mill Hamlet's Mill: An Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time by Giorgio de Santillana (1902-1974) and Hertha von Dechend (1915-2001) was first published in 1969. (The Library of Congress (Copyright Office) Catalog of Copyright Entries has 3 November, 1969, as the copyright date.) The authors presented the book as an exploratory effort in which they present pieces of a puzzle. Hamlet's Mill is a work of speculative scholarship. Much of the text can be described as cryptic/densely obscure. The authors even hint at being intentionally obscure! Certainly the analysis and interpretation by Hertha von Dechend is inventive. Hertha von Dechend spent her life interpreting ancient and medieval myths as a scientific code/shorthand for astronomical events. No university press would publish Hamlet's Mill. According to Colin Wilson the manuscript of Hamlet's Mill was rejected by academic publishers. (It is mistakenly believed by some persons that there was also a German-language edition published in 1969.) Though the English-language edition has been reprinted four times (i.e., 1970, 1977, 1983, and 1998) the authors never revised or corrected the book. Also, they did not publish any other book on the theme outlined in Hamlet's Mill. Hertha von Dechend incorporated some changes and additions to the German-language edition (Die Mühle des Hamlet) first published in 1993. (This was an authorized translation from the English by Beate Ziegs.) The German edition was 17 pages longer (x, 522 pages (but also indicated as comprising 578 pages)) than the original English edition (x, 505 pages). It would appear that the errata list that was enclosed in this German-language edition was left out of the 1994 reprint of such. (It would appear that this German-language edition was basically a translation of the English-language edition. For a review of the 1993 German-language edition see the (German-language) book review by P[?]. Richter in Sterne und Weltraum, Band 34, 1995, Pages 4-10.) (In Die Mühle des Hamlet (1994) reference is made to a forthcoming book An Introduction to Archaic Cosmology.) The Italian-language edition (Il Mulino di Amleto) published in 1983 was apparently simply a translation of the 1969 English-language book. It was reprinted in 1984, and 1998. An Italian-language edition appeared in 1983. However, the 1999 Italian-language edition, which was translated/edited by Alessandro Passi, comprised a new and expanded edition (630 pages). This particular edition was reprinted in 2000 and 2003. (The preface to this expanded edition was also written by Hertha von Dechend.) Also, a Hungarian translation (Hamlet malma, translated by Dr Végvári József) was published in 1995. A French-language edition/translation, titled Le Moulin d'Hamlet, was published in 2012. Critical book reviews of Hamlet's Mill Some of the critical (English-language) book reviews of Hamlet's Mill are by Edmund Leach in The New York Review (of Books), February 12, 1970, Page 36, (Giorgio's De Santillana's protest letter regarding this review appeared in "Letters," The New York Review, May 7, 1970); by Jaan Puhvel in The American Historical Review, Volume LXXV, Number 6, October, 1970, Pages 2009-2010; by Lynn White Junior in Isis, Volume 61, 1970, Pages 540-541; by Geoffrey Kirk in The Spectator , Number 7434, 19 December, 1970, Page 809; by Gerald Gresseth in Journal of American Folklore, Volume 84, Number 332, April/June, 1971, Pages 246-247; by Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin in Journal for the History of Astronomy, Volume 3, 1972, Pages 206-211; by Albert Friedman in Journal of the History of Philosophy, Volume X, 1972, Page 479; by Hilda Davidson in Folklore, Volume CXXXV, 1974, Pages 282-283; by David Leeming in Parabola, Volume III, Issue 1, 1978, Pages 113-115; and the (German-language) book review by Thomas Barthel in Zeitschrift für Ethnologie, Band 99, Heft 1 und 2, 1974, Pages 284-287). (I have not yet seen the French-language book review of Hamlet's Mill in Revue de l'histoire des religions, Volume 180, 1971, Page 216.) Hamlet's Mill as a 'package' for the different motives of its authors It is clear that both Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend had different motives for their approach and claims. The wider vision was held by Giorgio de Santillana who wanted to establish the earliest possible date for the origins of science and human genius/intelligence. (He most likely believed the book was an exploration of archaic consciousness.) It seems Hertha von Dechend merely wanted to reassert and expand the ideas of Leo Frobenius (and Panbabylonism). (She was very much a disciple of Frobenius.) De Santillana was susceptible to, and reliant on, the enormous work done by von Dechend - who proved herself capable of only working obscurely. Ultimately, Hamlet's Mill is a testament to their willingness to use incomprehensible speculation as a method to reach their respective aims. Ernset McClain posted to Bibal (Bibal Study Group) (December 6, 2006): "The problem with von Dechend is NOT with her general thesis, but rather with her own lack of ANY interest in the quantitative science that deSantillano (sic) outlines brilliantly in his introduction to what is really "her" book. She possessed none of the skills with the Pythagorean "quadrivium" (music, arithmetic, geometry, and astronomy) that you demonstrate so well. But she was right in feeling that things had to be interconnected better than our fractured disciplines illustrate, and she undoubtedly influenced many young readers. She and I found each other totally impossible. I had done most of my work on Greek science and mythology before reading her book, but there was no way of explaining to her the meaning of her own "hour glass" Holy Mountain. Our confrontation at an M.I.T. seminar and again later in Boston was fruitless. Very few people are able to "read me" with your kind of total insight. I can almost count them on one hand (as Marius Schneider warned me would happen before I published my first book [The Myth of Invariance (1978)]), having glanced at my first graphics for M.O.I. Not many people are ready to think "in this mode," although it has much in common with many branches of science ...." In his talk "Time in Literature." Enrico Palandri (University College London) stated: "The scholar Giorgio De Santillana is a solitary modern thinker to have felt a great fascination for the epoch before the word. Unlike our common, rather self content perception of the pre-historic time as a barbaric and undeveloped age, he thought of that original age as an epoch of mysterious greatness. In his opinion, these ancestors of ours must have had some formidable ability in mathematical calculus: we inherit from them the observation of the movement of stars, the Zodiac [de Santillana wrongly believed the zodiac was developed during the Neolithic period], and in his opinion also a network of common features which is a substratum of several mythologies of the Historic period. In his book Hamlet's mill (Il mulino di Amleto) he suggests that there may have been a link between several cultural similarities in worlds that our conception of the prehistoric age as "undeveloped" epoch would not explain. The idea of Indo-European language is related to this pre-written epoch. We imagine our language to have developed from a previous substratum of a language no longer existing." Both Hertha von Dechend and Giorgio de Santillana were too easily seduced by the illusionary scholarship of the Panbabylonists. Unfortunately Hamlet's Mill still remains a book to mislead incautious readers for decades to come. Some readers are eager to be misled. One enthusiastic supporter of the book writes in his review (2008): "A simultaneously wonderful, annoying, fascinating and baffling book. Cited by many ... as a flawed ... condemned by many more as a woefully muddled throwback to late 19th century "Panbabylonism", its very nature as a bold, disputed, unclassifiable mess endears it to me." My only comment on this type of uninformed nonsense is the Panbabylonian ideas Hamlet's Mill is based on originated in the early 20th-century - not the late 19th century. But supporters of Hamlet's Mill seem unaffected by matters of accuracy, or the need to do some genuine research. After the death of Giorgio de Santillana a staff member of Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität, Professor Dr Walter Saltzer, became a colleague of Hertha von Dechend. Walter Saltzer's key area of interest is the genesis and development of scientific ideas. He believes the period of the Presocratics and the period comprising the 17th- century happens to be the periods of decisive scientific progress. Saltzer is the deputy-director of the Institute for the History of Science. See his slim book Theorien und Ansatze in der Griechischen Astronomie (1976, Pages viii, 162, Figures 38). Also, the book reviews in Journal for the History of Astronomy, Volume 9, 1978, Pages 149-150; and Erasmus, Volume 31, 1979, Pages 374-377. Assessing Hamlet's Mill Hamlet's Mill has received, and continues to receive, an enormous amount of uncritical support despite the fact that it presents an obscure and confusingly argued case. It is flawed speculative scholarship. It has been described as "tortuous and occasionally baffling." It is highly speculative, its arguments are based on little evidence, and there is little substantiation of its arguments. The contents of the book are poorly organised and presented. The book contains an immense amount of loosely related information but there is no persuasive evidence presented for the connections being made. The case being made is attempted with dis-jointed and piece-meal arguments. There is no reason to believe that much of the evidence cited in the book has actual relevance to the claims being made. (As the fruit of a long collaboration between the authors the book is an academic mess.) A glaringly obvious defect is that both authors lack an expert knowledge of the history of Babylonian astronomy. (They chose to use early and unreliable sources from the pioneering stage of recovery of Babylonian astral sciences.) Indeed, their combined lack of knowledge of astronomy, philology, history, and mythology have resulted in fantastical conclusions. Remarkably, though the central theme relies on the establishment of a very early zodiac any attempt to establish evidence for such is ignored by the authors. A troublesome feature of the book is that its authors have neglected the obvious precaution of learning some elementary astronomy. The authors should have asked when the zodiac was first devised. The answer would have conclusively pointed to a maximum antiquity in the 1st-millennium BCE. However, the authors did not ask and answer the question and have cheerfully wandered many thousands of years beyond this period. The authors simply write their book on the assumption that an early zodiac and precessional mythology both existed. Mythical origins of Hamlet's Mill The origins of the theme and ideas in Hamlet's Mill have never been clearly explained by either author. According to Hertha von Dechend the astronomical interpretation of mythology was made clear during her work on Polynesian mythology. However, apart from a slight mention of this in Hamlet's Mill no further discussion ever occurred. In Hamlet's Mill (Page vii) Hertha von Dechend claimed her understanding of the astronomical content of Polynesian myth was established "when, on looking (on a map) at two little islands, mere flyspecks on the waters of the Pacific, she found that a strange accumulation of maraes or cult places could be explained only one way: they, and only they, were exactly sited on two neat celestial coordinates: the Tropics of Cancer and of Capricorn." (Though written by de Santillana he is wholly reliant on Von Dechend for the story.) The epiphany episode is not dated by von Dechend but it can, at earliest, only date to the 1940s or 1950s. There is enough literature for wider possibilities to be considered. There are various types of maraes. Basically a marae is an open-air sacred place comprising a paved court, (sometimes) a low-walled enclosure, and a raised platform (ahu) across one end, which served both religious and social purposes in pre-Christian Polynesian societies. The most comprehensive archaeological research on Nihoa(/Nihua) Island and Necker Island was conducted in 1923-1924 by Kenneth Emory of the Bishop Museum. In 1928 he published Archaeology of Nihoa and Necker Islands. It remains the baseline of our present-day knowledge regarding the archaeology and technology of Nihoa(/Nihua) and Necker. (Emory is considered to have perhaps overstated marae similarities to those in the Society Islands.) Robert Aitken, Research Associate in Ethnology, spent 2 years in the Austral Islands, principally on Tubuai, as a member of the Bayard Dominick Expedition of the Bishop Museum, 1920-1922. His preliminary report appeared in the Annual Report for 1922 of the Bernice P. Bishop Museum. His full report, Ethnology of Tubuai, appeared in 1930. Some persons see von Dechend's described 'event' as the impetus for her 'intellectual journey.' The description is devoid of suitable context i.e., the discussion of work previously done by others. The story is not believable as the impetus for her 'intellectual journey.' It is, however, believable for illustrating her methods - or lack of such. (This model is one that others seem bent on imitating.) Hertha von Dechend's teacher Leo Frobenius had, from the early 1900s, published Panbabylonian ideas and claimed correspondence between mythological themes and celestial phenomena, world-wide. Essentially, von Dechend carried on the work of her teacher Leo Frobenius. At Frankfurt she was certainly carrying on the work of Frobenius. A considerable number of her basic claims are borrowed from the Panbabylonian 'classic' Das Alte Testament im Lichte des Alten Orients (2 volumes) by Alfred Jeremias. The 3rd revised edition appeared in 1916. Hertha von Dechend merely wanted to reassert and expand the ideas of Leo Frobenius (and Panbabylonism). (Von Dechend studied Cultural and Historical Anthropology at the Frobenius Institute and Museum of Ethnology.) The story told by von Dechend in Hamlet's Mill does illustrate the shallowness and limitations of her research methods. She never engaged in a critical discussion/assessment of all the evidentiary issues but was simply persuaded by her initial 'snap' decision. She never revisited this decision, or introduced the ideas of other researchers. Though Hertha von Dechend does not name the two islands they are identifiable as Necker and Tubuai. The Tropic of Cancer presently passes just south of Necker. Tubuai presently lies just inside the Tropic of Capricorn (i.e., the Tropic of Capricorn currently lies just south of Tubuai). The Tropic of Cancer is a line of latitude approximately 23 degrees to the north of the equator. The Tropic of Capricorn is a line of latitude approximately 23 degrees to the south of the equator. The astronomical explanation of Polynesian mythology remains controversial and uncertain The astronomical explanation of Polynesian mythology remains controversial and uncertain. The astronomical explanation to account for the high numbers of temple platforms on Necker and Tubuai is also controversial. It involves the suggestion that the Polynesians had a keen interest in the passage of the sun through the zenith. The Tropics of Cancer and Capricorn establish the limits for the sun passing through the zenith (at noon). At any location inside the tropical points the sun passes through the zenith on two different days in the year. The actual dates are dependent upon the latitude. The Tropic of Cancer marks the most northerly latitude at which the sun can appear directly overhead (the zenith) at noon. The Tropic of Capricorn marks the most southerly latitude at which the sun can appear directly overhead (the zenith) at noon. At a location on the Tropic of Cancer, or the Tropic of Capricorn the sun passes directly overhead on only one day a year. This is the June solstice only for the Tropic of Cancer and the December solstice only for the Tropic of Capricorn. Necker, a northwestern Hawaiian island, was once inhabited. It was the furthermost island within easy reach of the main Hawaiian group. Necker and Nihoa(/Nihua) are the two main islands closest to the main Hawaiian Islands. The dense grouping of maraes on Necker Island is not found in Hawaii but is found in the Society Islands. The large number of maraes (33), constructed at different times, suggest that the occupation of the island was not a one time stop over by a fleet of voyaging canoes. The uniformity of the archaeological remains on Necker Island suggest that the island was inhabited for only a limited number of years. It is possible that drought was involved in their abandonment. However, maraes were used as ceremonial sites not dwelling sites. With no trees, 8 or 9 rock shelters, and limited water, it may have been a temporary occupation site, which was repeatedly visited. These northwestern islands were the base for hunting excursions for turtles and seabirds. Nihoa(/Nihua) is home to a tremendous amount of birds and lots of marine life, including seals and turtles. Necker had 33(/34) temple platforms almost identical to those found in Polynesian islands to the southeast. The temple platforms were erected by inhabitants who lived on the island in the 14^th-century CE, or perhaps earlier (circa 1000 CE). Oral traditions and archaeological data attest to Native Hawaiian voyaging and colonizing of Nihoa(/Nihua) and Necker. Nihoa(/Nihua) also has Necker-style manaes. They may also have been part of a migratory movement towards the Hawaiian Islands. (See: Sacred Places North America by Brad Olsen (2008) for succinct information.) In his book Isles of Refuge (2001, Page 49) Mark Rauzon writes: "We could see the shrines along the crest of Necker. To the crew, they symbolized pushing the limits and proving one's sailing ability. Perhaps the rigid structure of the ancient class society in the main islands may have forced independent-spirited people to set off on their own and seek new lands. Each voyage might have required a shrine and could account for the thirty-three marae on Necker." Nihoa(/Nihua) it is a dry place covered with brush and grasses. The only tree growing there is an endemic palm. Nihoa(/Nihua) is home to a tremendous amount of birds and lots of marine life, including seals and turtles. The numerous ruins include cultivation terraces, house sites, and ceremonial structures. It is estimated that the island could have sustained a small population of perhaps 100 to 150 people. Closer to the main Hawaiian islands is Kahoolawe, a low and unfertile island. It is the smallest island of the Hawaiian island chain, comprising 8 major volcanic islands. It is located 10 kilometres southwest of Maui Island. It has had transient inhabitants but has not retained a permanent population. It is considered a sacred island and has more than 600 archaeological and culturally significant sites. Tubuai is part of the present-day Austral Island Group (Tubuai Islands), one of a number of islands east of the Cook Islands. The Tubuai Islands are a long chain of remote islands located in the far South Pacific. There are seven main islands of which five are inhabited. The largest island is Tubuai. Tubuai is one of several islands close to the Tropic of Capricorn that has an unusually large number of temple platforms. There are hundreds of ceremonial sites located throughout Polynesia. There is little evidence for any intentional astronomical alignments. The astronomer William Liller, who investigated the temple platforms first-hand, has not established any clear evidence for astronomical alignment of temple platforms on Necker. Polynesian ethnographic literature makes no mention of a solar cult. According to the archaeoastronomer Clive Ruggles there is no evidence that the early Polynesian voyagers "were interested in determining the zenith passage of the sun very precisely." An astronomical explanation for the high number of temple platforms may not be relevant. The archaeoastronomer Clive Ruggles suggests the sacredness of Necker may simply originate "from its extreme location - an end place beyond which there were no more habitable islands." (See: Ancient Astronomy: An Encyclopedia of Cosmologies and Myth by Clive Ruggles (2005).) It is also possible that Necker served as some sort of pilgrimage site. Perhaps because of the combination of the occurrence of a single zenith and its extreme location as an 'end place.' The influence of Leo Frobenius on Hertha von Dechend In his book The Origin of Scientific Thought (1961) Giorgio de Santillana had set out his belief in an astronomical origin of myth and fairytale. However, the book Hamlet's Mill also clearly shows the influence of Hertha von Dechend's teacher Leo Frobenius (who had written several books mirroring some Panbabylonian ideas, and the correspondence between mythological themes and celestial phenomena). The major influential book by Leo Frobenius influencing von Dechend was Das Zeitalter des Sonnengottes (1904). During and after her PhD studies at Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität von Dechend was a co-worker at the Frobenius-Institut and the Museum für Völkerkunde. (According to one short obituary notice: "Hertha von Dechend studied ethnology, philosophy, history and archeology (Frankfurt). Ph.D. in 1939. During and after her studies she was a co-worker at the Frobenius-Institut and the Museum für Völkerkunde. She has been at the IGN since November 1943. Habilitation 1960, apl. Prof. 1966, Emeritus since 1980. 1960-1969 regular research and teaching visits to the M.I.T., Cambridge, MA.") The Frobenius Institut lists her as an associate Researcher (wissenschaftliche Mitarbeiterin) from 1939-1945. Hertha von Dechend was very much a disciple of Leo Frobenius. (The German ethnographer Leo Frobenius (1873-1938) was the founder of the Institute of Cultural Morphology, which was destroyed by Allied Bombing in World War II. His work is now regarded as outdated and flawed. He created dozens of speculative/foolish theories. See: "Leo Frobenius and the Revolt Against the Western World." by Suzanne Marchand in Journal of Contemporary History, Volume 32, Number 2, April, 1997, Pages 153-170. In 1911 he claimed to have discovered the 'lost continent of Atlantis' in Africa.) The influence of Panbabylonism on Hertha von Dechend Another strong influential source for Hamlet's Mill would have been two Panbabylonian books by Alfred Jeremias listed in the Bibliography of Hamlet's Mill - Das Alte Testament im Lichte des Alten Orients (3rd Revised Edition 1916 (2 Volumes)); and Handbuch der Altorientalischen Geisteskultur (2nd Revised Edition, 1929). In the former Alfred Jeremias sets out such ideas as: (1) zodiacal world ages due to precession, (2) the change in world ages represented in myths, and (3) the celestial earth in the zodiac (ecliptic). Following the Panbabylonism of Alfred Jeremias the authors of Hamlet's Mill identify ancient references to a 'quadrangular Earth' with four corners or pillars as a coded picture of "the ideal plane [= the ecliptic] going through the four points of the year, the equinoxes and the solstices." (It has been remarked that von Dechend also seems to have been influenced by Jungian ideas.) Hertha von Dechend published very little material. Her PhD dissertation Die kultishe und mythische Bedeutung des Schweins in Indonesien und Ozeanien (= The significance of pigs in myth and culture in Indonesia and Oceania) (Frankfurt: Goethe Universitat, 1939 (but I have seen the date given as 1943)) remains unpublished. It appears that it was during her PhD work that she first concluded that only if Oceanic mythology was given an astronomical interpretation could it be understood. Her Habilitation (completed in 1960) was Der Mythos von gebauten Welt als Ausdrucksform archaischer Naturwissenschaft. In 1973 and 1977 she published 2 short articles on the subject of ancient cosmology. (On of these was "Bemerkungen zum Donnerkeil [Comments on the Thunderbolt]." in: Prismata (Festschrift für Will Hartner), 1977; Pages 95ff.) Another, little-known, article by Hertha von Dechend is "Il concetto di simmetria nelle culture arcaiche." in: La Simmetria, edited by Evandro Agnazzi [sometimes given as Agazzi] (1973, Pages 361-397(399?)). The publication in which the paper appears is a collection of 1973 conference papers presented in Venice. Giorgio de Santillana published substantial material on the history of science. Yet another little-known article by von Dechend is "Erinnerungen an die Friihzeit des Instituts." In: Ad Radices edited by Anton von Gotstedter (1994, Pages 3-11). Godfrey Higgins' Anacalypsis The author of Anacalypsis identifies and discusses similar (religious) beliefs held world-wide. A basic theme of the book is that there is a universal basis to all languages and religions and Godfrey Higgins sought to identify the common thread. Godfrey Higgins (1772-1833) hypothesized that all religions had sprung from one common origin, which he sought to trace, and he further suggested the existence of a secret religious order, that he termed Pandeism, that once held sway across much of the globe. (Hertha von Dechend mentioned Godfrey Higgins and his book Anacalypsis in her 1979 seminar. The authors also use it, at least once, in Hamlet's Mill (Page 256): Finally in Higgins' Anacalypsis there is a quote, without the ancient source but reasonably reliable: "Ganges which is also called Po." The book is listed on page 466 of the bibliography.) The influence of Higgins' concept of an ancient world-wide secret religious order sharing knowledge, on the similar idea expressed in Hamlet's Mill that a secret world-wide net of scholars existed and shared coded astronomical information should not be overlooked. In his essay: "Godfrey Higgins' Anacalypsis: A Critique," JPH writes, "The work of Godfrey Higgins, Anacalypsis, is quite nearly as hard to find as a two-headed chicken -- and it is nearly as normal as one. ... It cites few sources for its claims, but those it does cite are the sort of things you won't find easily -- anyone wishing to back-check all of Higgins' comments will be in for a real lifetime chore .... There is no telling whether the bulk of Higgins' sources are credible or not (though we do have some hints). Anacalypsis is full of assertions that are either undocumented or come from sources whose credibility is completely unknown in this time .... It is also, furthermore, that Higgins is so outdated that any arguments he makes based on dating, language, and so on, require at this time a full re-argument before they can be accepted. ... Higgins' editor admits that Higgins was criticized by scholars who "felt that amateurs had no place in their special fields" [459], so even in his day he was obviously considered unreliable. How much more so today in light of what we know now? Anyone using Higgins as a source had best explain themselves as well as Higgins." Beginning of Giorgio de Santillana's belief in astronomical mythology (In his book The Origin of Scientific Thought (1961) Giorgio de Santillana had set out his belief in an astronomical origin of myth and fairytale. In the Prologue to this book "Of High and Far-off Times" he traces back the roots of scientific thought to its origins in Neolithic Period astronomers. He also wrote of myths providing an astronomical code that had been previously overlooked by modern scholars. The Prologue was also published in the quarterly magazine Midway, Volume XI, Number 1, Summer, 1970.) In her book The Printing Press as an Agent of Change (Volume 1, 1980, Page 279, Note 349) Elizabeth Eisenstein writes: "de Santillana, book review [of Yate's work on Giordano Bruno], American Historical Review, ... contains hints of de Santillana's later collaborative book with Hertha von Dechend: Hamlet's Mill." In his review of Yate's work on Giordano Bruno, he pointed to certain problems presented by the "churning turbid flood" of Hermetic, Cabalistic and other esoteric literature. (See: American Historical Review, Volume LXX, January, 1965, Pages 455-457.) Assessment of the authors of Hamlet's Mill Neither Giorgio de Santillana or Hertha von Dechend can be accurately described as polymaths. Hertha von Dechend especially falls below that description. Richard Flavin, who has a prodigious intellect, helps to perpetuate a myth concerning Herth von Dechend with his obituary of her. See further than the summary: "Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers, Table of Contents, Volume 24, 2004, In Memoriam: Dr. Hertha von Dechend (2 pp) Richard D. Flavin 24-p 296. A controversial scholar, Hertha von Dechend is most often remembered for her co-authorship with Giorgio de Santillana of Hamlet's Mill: An essay on myth and the frame of time (Boston, Gambit Inc., 1969). Although she majored in archaeology and ethnology, Dechend concentrated most of her efforts in the study and teaching of science. Her major publications were few, but her intellect and influence were profound." Sources of biographical information for Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha [Herta] von Dechend For information on the authors see the sympathetic (English-language) obituary of Giorgio de Santillana (1902-1974) by Nathan Sivin (a former student of de Santillana at MIT), Professor of Chinese Culture and the History of Science, University of Pennsylvania, in Isis, Volume 67, 1976, Pages 439-493; and the (English-language) obituary of Hertha von Dechend (1915-2001) by Uta Lindgren, Professor of the History of Science, University of Bayreuth in Isis, Volume 94, 2003, Pages 112-113). Brief biographical information for both de Santillana and von Dechend appears in The World of Physics (1987) edited by Jefferson Weaver. For brief biographical details of de Santillana see the entry in, Directory of American Scholars: A Biographical Directory, Volume 1, published 1969 by the American Council of Learned Societies. For other obituaries of Giorgio de Santillana see: America, History and Life, Volume 15, 1979, Page 4 (Page 105 and Page 189 for obituaries). (Professor Uta Lindgren mistakenly credits Hertha von Dechend with being was the first person to analyse myths for their astronomical content. This sort of analysis was a common 19th-century pastime for some writers such as George St Clair and Gerald Massey. A 20th-century precursor to Hamlet's Mill was contained in (the unpublished?) Mystery of the Zodiac (dated circa 1948) by (the somewhat obscure Polish writer) Witold Balcer.) Each obituary contains a photograph of the respective author. Both authors were experienced, though not major, historians of science. Giorgio de Santillana described himself as as a scientific rationalist but, on the basis of Hamlet's Mill, he could also be described as an eccentric historian. It is undoubtedly correct to describe him as a polyhistor. See also "Ein Vulkan ist erloschen: Hertha von Dechend in memoriam." by Uta Lindgren in Nachrichtenblatt der Deutschen Gesellschaft für Geschichte der Medizin, Naturwissenschaft und Technik, Jahrgang 51, Heft 2, Sommer, 2001, Pages 148-151; "The Foundations of Archaic Cosmology: Hertha von Dechend (1915-2001)." by Lindgren Uta in XXII International Congress of History of Science, Book of Abstracts, 2005, Pages 338; and the (German-language) obituary for Hertha von Dechend by Yas Maeyama in UniReport 5, 13. Juni 2001, Jahrgang 34, Page 14. (This is a publication of Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität Frankfurt am Main.) Further, see "In Memorium: Hertha von Dechend." in The Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers, Volume 24, 2006, Pages 296-297. Biographical information for Giorgio de Santillana De Santillana was an Italian born and trained historian of science (physicist and philosopher) who made his career at MIT. Giorgio de Santillana was born in Rome, Italy, and was of Jewish descent. His parents were David de Santillana and Emilia (Emily) (Maggiorani) de Santillana. Il mulino di Amleto: Saggio sul mito e sulla struttura del tempo (1983) carries the dedication, "Alla memoria dei miei genitori David de Santillana Emilia de Santillana Maggiorani." (Several sources give 1901 as the year of Giorgio de Santillana's birth - not 1902. It appears, however, that 1902 is correct. (One early source even gives 1906 as year of birth.) He died in 1974 (aged 72 years).) One source states he was an Italian marquis but this is likely confusion with the Medieval Spanish writer, the Marques de Santillana (1398-1458). He was a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. De Santillana was a boyhood friend of Lauro de Bosis (1901-1931), the gifted Italian poet and aviator. Harvard University offers a Lauro de Bosis Postdoctoral Fellowship. Biographical information for David de Santillana David de Santillana (commonly David Santillana) was an Islamist and authority on Moslem law, born in Tunis, North Africa, 1855; and died in Rome, 1931. He was one of the foremost Islamists in Italy. For most of his career David de Santillana was Professor of the History of the Political and Religious Institutions of Islam, at the University Of Rome. See the short biographical entry: SANTILLANA, DAVID, in The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 9, 1943, Page 365. Some sources (mistakenly) state that David de Santillana was a Professor of Law (but he was a jurist). He was a specialist in Islamic law; and considered an expert in both Islamic and European law. He is generally described as a Orientalist. David de Santillana was a Tunisian Jew of Spanish descent. He was born in Tunis and studied in Rome where acquired a PhD in law. David de Santillana (Tunis 1855(sometimes mistakenly 1845)-Rome 1931) was a distinguished Orientalist (Arabist and expert of Islam) at the University of Rome; where he was Professor of Muslim history (Professor of the History of the Political and Religious Institutions of Islam). He also lectured on Arabic and Islamic topics in Arabic at Cairo University. He was described as having a "pleasant Tunisian accent." David de Santillana was naturalised British and then Italian. In 1899 he compiled a draft code of civil and commercial law for Tunisia which was partially enacted in 1906. (At the end of the 19th-century, the protectorate authorities established a commission for the codification of the laws of Tunisia and appointed Professor David Santillana, an expert in both Islamic and European civil law, to draft the document. He prepared (1889) the scheme of a code of civil law and commercial law to be adopted in Tunisia; it was praised as a work of exceptional judicial value and ingenuity, in view of the difficulty of conforming Islamic law in Tunisia to a heterogeneous Arab-European population.) His books/publications include: On Comparison between Islamic Law and European Laws: Civil and Commercial Laws, published in 1928, and his translation and comments on the book Mukhtasar Khalil (Khalil's Treatise), published in 1919. Also, he wrote the chapter, "Law and Society," In: The Legacy of Islam, edited by Thomas Arnold and Alfred Guillaume (1931). A classic study is his, Istituzioni di diritto musulmano malichita, con riguardo anche al sistema sciafiita (2 volumes, 1925-38). Biographical information for Emilia de Santillana Emilia de Santillana was active in social movements (women's rights movements). (Also perhaps one or more of the following: agricultural settlements, congregations of charity, orphanages, committees, charitable organizations for orphans of war.) She was (at least in 1923) Secretary of the National Council of Women (using the name Emilia Santillana-Maggiorani). She was part of the movement of liberal, democratic, and radical women who before WWII were in the forefront of feminist agitation. This broad movement of women was not at all cooperative with the Fascist government, which actively sought to suppress the moment. In 1881 she received payment of a large amount of funds (but as yet I do not know further details). In 1923 the address for Emilia Santillana-Maggiorani is given as: Via Firenze 48, Rome. (It was once the home of an Aristocratic family; now the small Seiler Hotel. The location is in the (historical) centre of Rome.) See: Women of 1923, International, and Women and Social Movements, International - 1840 to Present. (An archive co-published by the Center for the Historical Study of Women and Gender at SUNY, Binghamton, and Alexander Street Press. Finalised 2012.) Via Firenze 48, Rome. The residence of the de Santillana family (presumably an apartment within the building). Record of amount of yearly retirement/pension payments to Emilia Maggiorani. Giorgio de Santillana's student studies De Santillana's student studies were conducted at the University of Rome. He received a Ph.D. (graduated) in physics from the University of Rome in 1925. (His doctoral dissertation was on The theorem of least action in relativist dynamics.) He then did 2 years of graduate work in philosophy (at the Sorbonne?) in Paris and then he also did 2 years of graduate work at the University of Milan (Physics Department) - he was assistant to Aldo Pontremoli in the University of Milan 1926-1927. As a student Giorgio de Santillana was one of a number of people involved in the project by Federigo Enriques (also a Roman of Jewish descent) to present classical period mathematical texts in forms accessible to both students and teachers in secondary schools. Giorgio de Santillana's early academic career and publications Circa 1930 (1927?) he was asked by Federigo Enriques, Professor of Higher Geometry at the University of Rome, to help organise a department for the History of Science. The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who states: "Instructor, Rome University, 1929-1932." As an assistant of Federigo Enriques (in the Institute of the History of Science attached to the University of Rome) he taught the history and philosophy of science at Rome University. (He was an Instructor at the University for 2 years; working in the same university as his father.) He also collaborated with Federigo Enriques on a history of scientific thought that gave particular attention to antiquity. At this later date Federigo Enriques and Giorgio de Santillana worked together on a joint project to produce a comprehensive history of science. However they were only able to complete/publish a part in 1932 (Storia del pensiero scientifico) and then in 1937 (Platon et Aristotle). A publication (shortly after he arrived in the USA) included Mathématiques et astronomie de la période hellénique (1939, 78 pages) co-authored with Federigo Enriques. (Santillana's approach to history in some ways mimics Enriques.) In 1935 he gave a series of lectures at the Sorbonne, and he also conducted colloquia (seminars) in Brussels (Belgium) and Pontigny (France). Giorgio de Santillana's immigration to the USA There seems to be three versions of how he came to the USA. One version implies Giorgio de Santillana left Mussolini's Italy in 1938 when the race laws (discriminating against Jews) were introduced in November, 1938, and sought shelter in the USA (as a displaced foreign scholar). The race laws, amongst other things, excluded Jews from State controlled employment. (See: Italian Mathematics Between the Two World Wars by Angelo Guerraggio and Pietro Nastasi (2005, Page 141).) According to a second version Giorgio de Santillana left Mussolini's Italy in 1936 (some say 1935) (as discriminatory measures against Jews there were increasing) and came to the USA, assisted by a committee in the USA, as a displaced foreign scholar. (He was sponsored by The New School for Social Research.) Perhaps the dates mean he left Italy in 1935 and left Europe in 1936. (Either way, he sought shelter in the USA at that general time. I have also seen a third version which states he came to the USA from Paris in 1936 and soon after joined the faculty of MIT. This seems to be the correct version.) According to The Atlantic (Volume 176, 1945) Santillana's opposition to Mussolini drove him into exile. The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who states: "Came to the US in 1936." Although the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini initially distrusted the racism of Hitler's National Socialism, he later accepted anti-Semitism. Jean Kelly in the United Kingdom has kindly brought my attention to information about Giorgio de Santillana she has uncovered on Ancestry (September, 2010). New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 records that in 1936 he departed from Cherbourg in France (by the passenger ship SS Aquitania, on 6th April) and on 14th April, 1936 he arrived at New York, New York State. This low resolution scan, though difficult to read, seems to state that Giorgio de Santillana was married. It also gives his occupation as lecturer. The List also records that in 1946 a Giorgio Santillana departed Orly Airport, Paris and on 21st October, 1946 he arrived at New York, New York State. If this is Giorgio de Santillana then this would have involved one of his first post-war trips overseas. (A Giorgio di Santillana departed Rome, Italy in 1955 and arrived on 13th August, 1955 at Boston, Massachusetts. This is undoubtedly Giorgio de Santillana.) U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes Records, 1794-1995 records that on 26th March, 1945 he became a naturalised citizen of the USA. (Some record details are: Record number: 6551091; Name: Giorgio Diaz deSantillana; Residing at: 383 Harvard Street, Cambridge 38; Age: 42 years (May 30, 1902); Petition number: 282628; Alien registration number: 3178854. 383 Harvard Street is the address of Ware Hall. Ware Hall was built in 1893 and was added to the National Historic Register in 1983. It was primarily a residence comprised of apartments.) The Social Security Death Index records that in 1974 Giorgio Desantillana died in Essex, Massachusetts. (This is undoubtedly Giorgio de Santillana.) (The Florida Death Index, 1877-1998 records that in 1974 Giorgio Diaz Desantillana died in Dade, Florida.) In November 2010 Jean Kelly kindly sent me a high resolution copy of a 1939 page from the U.S. Department of Labor, List or Manifest of Passengers for the United States of America, also uncovered on Ancestry. The information given on this page (unfortunately still sometimes difficult to read) includes: Sailed: Cherbourg, 26th August on the Empress of Australia [A 21,560-ton ocean liner that stayed in service until 1952. The partially completed hull was launched on 20 December 1913 and her first trip was 1 December 1919. The ship was built by Vulcan AG shipyard in Stettin (now Szczecin, Poland) for the Hamburg America Line as SS Tirpitz. She was taken as a war reparation in 1919 and sold to Canadian Pacific Steamships and was renamed firstly Empress of China in 1921 and then Empress of Australia in 1922]; Name: George de Santillana; Age 37 years; Married or single: M[arried]; Calling or occupation: Lecturer; Immigration Visa Number: N. Q. 71; Issued at: Paris; Date: 26th [?] August, 1939; Last permanent residence: Rome, Italy. This means he left Italy in 1935, left Europe in 1936 (for the USA), and he returned to Europe again only to leave again in 1939 (and return to the USA). By convention the date generally given by historians for the start of World War II is 1 September 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. Giorgio de Santillana's early academic career in the USA From 1937 to 1938 de Santillana was an instructor at the New School for Social Research, in New York City. The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who states: "Lecturer, New School for Social Research, 1936-1937." This was originally founded in New York City in 1919 as a private coeducational institution of higher learning for adults. (In 1997 its name was changed to New School University.) (He was actually connected with the University in Exile. This was founded in 1933 as a graduate division of the New School for Social Research as a haven for scholars who had been dismissed from teaching positions by totalitarian regimes in Europe. See: Intellectuals and Exile: Refuge Scholars and the New School for Social Research by Claus-Dieter Krohn (1993; Page 209). Between 1933 and 1945, Alvin Johnson and the New School sponsored 183 refugee scholars, more than any other American institution.) (His association with the New School of Social Research may help explain his attention to political and social issues extending at least through the the end of the 1950s.) He then became a visiting lecturer at Harvard University (1941). (According to The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who he was a: "Visiting lecturer, Harvard University, 1937-1939.") The Report of the President of Harvard College and Reports of Departments, Volume 38, Issue 20, states: "Dr De Santillana - History of Leading Scientific Ideas from the Earliest Times to the Close of the Nineteenth Century." The Harvard Crimson, Friday, January 28, 1938, states: "Three graduates of foreign Universities are among the appointments to the faculty announced yesterday, to take office next September 1. George de Santillana a graduate of the University of Rome, now at the New School for Social Research in New York City, has been appointed lecturer on the History of Science for one year." The Official Register of Harvard University for 1939, 1940, and 1941 each list George de Santillana of the New School for Social Research, New York City. It is frequently stated he joined MIT in 1941 as Professor of English and History. (One source states he joined MIT in 1942 as Assistant Professor, in 1948 he was made Associate Professor (he was certainly Associate Professor of History at MIT in 1949), and in 1954 he was made Professor of the History of Science [Professor of the History and Philosophy of Science].) The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who states: "Member, faculty, MIT, 1941." According to The Technology Review, Volume 44, 1942, Page 325, in 1942 de Santillana was promoted to the grade of Assistant Professor, Department of English and History. As late as circa 1950 he was referred to as George de Santillana. (In 1948 his office was 24-222, i.e., Building 24, Room 222. Building 24 was an 8-storey structure constructed in 1941. I do not know whether his office changed location. During the 1960s he had a secretary and also, hanging on one of the office walls, a large portrait of Galileo.) According to one source he became a naturalised citizen of the USA in 1945. However, I believe the date for this is correctly 1947. (According to the magazine Scientific American (1949) George de Santillana was (then) associate professor of history at MIT.) The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) MIT is a private research university located in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Founded in 1861, it adopted the European polytechnic university model. In 1916 the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) moved its campus from the Back Bay of Boston across the Charles River to Cambridge. Aerial view of MIT campus in the 1920s. Giorgio de Santillana's efforts in establishing academic recognition for the history of science At the time de Santillana secured his employment at MIT the recognition of the history of science as a scholarly discipline had not yet been established. (De Santillana was a second-generation historian of science as his father had been one of the most distinguished practitioners of that discipline at the turn of the 19th-century.) In the 1930s few universities in the USA had a graduate program in the history of science. Due to George Sarton's efforts at Harvard University the Ph.D. degree in the history of science was established. "Only recently has the history of science, thanks to the unflagging efforts of Dr. George Sarton and others, begun to achieve the recognition it deserves as a scholarly discipline in its own right." ("Science." by Francis Johnson and Sanford Larkey (Modern Language Quarterly, 1941, Volume 2, Number 3, Pages 363-401).) Both Willy Hartner and Giorgio de Santillana joined the Harvard group of history of science instructors in and shortly after 1935, and they both, in turn, formed new centres of work and instruction in the history of science. After World War II the principal persons who established the history of science as a recognised discipline within American universities are George Sarton, I. Bernard Cohen, Henry Guerlac, and Marshall Clagett. Giorgio de Santillana's war time service From 1943 to 1945 de Santillana was on the staff of the United States Army newspaper Stars and Stripes as a 'war correspondent.' In 1945 de Santillana spent 8 months in Europe reporting on Italy. During the summer of 1946 he spent 4 months touring Italy and France. (See: "Europe Analyzed By De Santillana" in The Tech, Volume LXVI, Number 28, December 6, 1946, Pages 1 & 2.) In 1946 at least he was still with the English and History Department, MIT. I have no other knowledge/details of his war time service (The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who). It was possibly because of his military service that his naturalisation as a USA citizen was facilitated. The spelling George di Santillana The spelling George di Santillana also appears. As example: For authorship of the articles "The Private and Public Life of Socrates." in The Commonweal, Volume 31, 1940; and "Galileo, the Ancient" in Science, Volume 96, 1942 (containing papers of Galileo symposium by the American Association for the Advancement of Science). (The spelling George di Santillana was used into the 1950s.) The American Association for the Advancement of Science Symposium in 1942 was in commemoration of the 300th anniversary of Galileo's death. In addition to Giorgio de Santillana, on "Galileo, the Ancient"; the participants were Henry Crew, on "Galileo, Pioneer in Physics"; and Chauncey Leake, on "Contributions of Science to the Concept of Freedom." Giorgio de Santillana's abiding interest in political and social issues De Santillana retained an interest in political and social issues. Giorgio de Santillana's historical perspective De Santillana specialised in parallels between historical issues in science and present conflicts (for example, Oppenheimer / Galileo). (This comparison did not always meet with agreement and was viewed by some as forced.) He also specialised in Galileo. Giorgio de Santillana's early occult and pseudo-scientific leanings His MIT courses showed flexibility. In the early 1950s Giorgio de Santillana, taught a one-year course on Dante for Seyyed Hossein Nasr and his friends. De Santillana also introduced Nasr to the writings of René Guénon (sometimes spelled Guéron), who is considered by followers/disciples to be one of the 20th-century luminaries. René Guénon (1886-1951), also known as Shaykh 'Abd al-Wahid Yahya, was a French neo-Gnostic author and intellectual who still remains an influential figure in metaphysic studies, having written on topics ranging from metaphysics, "sacred science," and traditional studies, to symbolism and initiation. Guénon "wrote apocalyptic diatribes against rationalism and western ideas of progress." In his book, The Crisis of the Modern World (1978), he "identified a sacred tradition as the controlling force in the universe" and "argued that the sterility and degradation in the modern world was the direct result of the substitution of economic growth for metaphysics and the abandonment of the rigid tradition of medieval Christianity." (See: The Devil and James McAuley (1999, Pages 92-93) by Cassandra Pybus.) See also the critique of René Guénon in Essai su le mystère de l'histoire by Jean Daniélou (1953, Pages 120-126). Robin Waterfield notes that Guénon followers/disciples tend to see The Crisis of the Modern World "as an infallible textbook giving the correct attitude to be adopted when confronted with a problem or situation." The Primordial Tradition concept supported by René Guénon is a school of religious philosophy that holds its origins in the philosophia perennis (perennial philosophy), which is in turn a development of the prisca theologia of the Middle Ages. The Primordial Tradition seeks to establish a fundamental substrata of religious belief in all authentic religious teachings, adhering to the principle that universal truths are a cross cultural phenomenon and transcendent of their respective Traditions, mythologies, and religious beliefs. The process utilized is similar to the study of the history of religions and comparative mythology as is found in the works of authors such as Mircea Eliade. It can also be found in the school of archetypal psychology and in the ideas of Carl Jung. Interestingly, René Guénon believed in the existence of ancient Thule, a Nordic equivalent of the vanished civilization of Atlantis. Mircia Eliade (1907-1986) Romanian historian of religion, and professor at the University of Chicago. Eliade argued that the Panbabylonian school was was correct in comparing religious phenomena which were "historically related and structurally analogous." Eliade drew on a number of Panbabylonian ideas. "Wheatley's arguments concerning the axis mundi was based on the work of Eliade. Eliade in turn based his arguments on the Pan-Babylonian scholars - with the crucial difference that the Pan-Babylonian scholars saw notions of the sacred center as diffused from the Near East, whereas Eliade saw them as a universal aspect of what he called primitive cultures. In other words the entire notion of an axis mundi came originally from the Pan-Babylonian scholars' reading of Near Eastern materials, and Eliade, and later Wheatley, then universalized the notion. However, the existence of the notion of an axis mundi in the Near Eastern materials has been called into question as well. As Jonathan Z. Smith (To Take Place, p. 16) has argued: "There is no pattern of the 'Center' in the sense that the Pan-Babylonians and Eliade described it in the Near Eastern materials." (To Become a God: Cosmology, Sacrifice, and Self-Divinization in Early China by Michael Pratt (2002, Page 42, Note 37.) Mircea Eliade has been described as "notoriously reluctant" to elaborate on the origins of mythological motifs. However, what few statements he did make on the issue demonstrate his close affinity with the ideas of the nature-school of the early 19th-century (i.e., Max Müller). (For example see Eliade's: Patterns in Comparative Religion (1958, Pages 449 onwards.) Seyyed Hossein Nasr (The Philosophy of Seyyed Hossein Nasr (2001, Page 17 & 18) makes several interesting comments about Giorgio de Santillana: "He had been a collaborator with Emile Meyerson in the effort to combat logical positivism. ... He was also seriously interested in Hinduism and Islamic thought, his father David de Santillana having been one of the foremost Islamicists of Italy. ... [H]e was deeply interested in traditional metaphysics and metaphysical philosophy and regretted their eclipse in the modern West." There is reason to believe that at least some of his ideas concerning the early history of science bordered on the mystical. In a 1994 (1997?) interview Jerome Lettvin related that de Santillana would conduct Tarot readings (and seemed to earnestly believe in the veracity of such). According to Lettvin, de Santillana conducted a Tarot reading for his wife Maggie and multiple Tarot readings for Walter Pitts, who constantly requested such. In his autobiography in The History of Neuroscience in Autobiography, Volume 2 (1998, Pages 222-243), edited by Larry Squire, Lettvin writes (Page 234): "One of my best friends at MIT was Giorgio de Santillana, the historian of ideas. He was a most learned and kindly man with a mordant wit. Walter, Wiener, and I often hung out at his office. (Both Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend were acknowledged influences on Jerome (Jerry) Lettvin.) Giorgio was a past-master at fortune-telling with the Tarot. Wiener loved having his fortune told. Giorgio vainly tried to persuade him that the Tarot should be a rare and sometime thing to be used only in crisis, but Wiener would have none of such excuses. For example, Walter and I used it when we started a new experimental venture." (At least one academic offered that in 1944 Giorgio de Santillana gave a talk in which he appears to have indicated his belief in a "quasi-mystical unanalyzable sort of event." (See: The Foundational Debate: Complexity and Constructivity in Mathematics and Physics edited by Werner DePauli-Schimanovich et al. (Series: Vienna Circle Institute Yearbook, Volume 3; 1995, Page 271).) It appears de Santillana held the fantasy that he was the reincarnation of Merlin travelling backwards in time.) Giorgio de Santillana's academic interest in art Giorgio de Santillana had an academic interest in art. (See: De Santillana, Giorgio. "The Role of Art in the Scientific Renaissance." In: Critical Problems in the History of Science edited by Marshall Clagett, (1959) pages 33-65; Reprinted in: The Rise of Modern Science edited by G. Basalla (1968) pages 76-82.) At least for 1961-1962 de Santillana was a member of the Renaissance Society of America. Giorgio de Santillana and Galileo Henry Guerlac states that for de Santillana "Galileo is the central symbolic figure linking the Ancients with the Moderns." (Galileo's lifework in mechanics was a sort of watershed between medieval and modern science. A large part of Galileo's work challenged previously held Aristotelian assumptions. Among the most prominent were his studies of projectile motion and inertia. Galileo destroyed the fabric of Aristotelian science on which medieval thought had rested. Due to the influence of Aristotelian philosophy on religion at the time it can be seen that these new views were an indirect challenge to religious authority.) George Basalla (The Rise of Modern Science (1968)) wrote: "Few who write on Resaissance science today can match de Santillana's knowledge of the philosophical currents of that era." For errors in De Santillana's scholarship on Galileo see: Galileo, Science, and the Church by Jerome Langford (1992). Also see: Galileo and the Church: Political Inquisition or Critical Dialogue by Rivka Feldhay (1995). For a quite different account of the origin of Galileo's troubles with Rome see, Galileo, Heretic by Pietro Redondi (1987). (See also: The Advancement of Science by Philip Kitcher (1995). Mary Lefkowitz and Guy Rogers (Black Athena Revisited, 1996, Page 223), discussing Martin Bernal's claims for de Santillana, state: " ... de Santillana was at best a minor figure, hardly "one of the greatest, if not the greatest, historians of Renaissance science" (BA I:275). His provocative, sympathetic and pro-Galileo, and passionately anticlerical book on Galileo's trial, The Crime of Galileo (1955), does not stand up very well in the light of recent research on Galileo's trial and its background, and his revision of a seventeenth-century English version of Galileo's Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems (1953) was already superseded when it appeared by the publication of Stillman Drake's superior translation in the same year." (Worth referring to is: "New Galilean Studies." by by Giorgio de Santillana (Isis, Volume 33, Number 6, June, 1942, Pages 654-656.) De Santillana's edition of Galileo's Dialogue on the Great World Systems [Concerning the Two Chief World Systems] was the first modern English translation in 300 years, based on the early translation of Thomas Salusbury (published in 1661). In 1664 Salusbury also published a life of Galileo. Critics did praise de Santillana's efforts (see the favourable English-language book reviews by Douglas McKie in The New Scientist, 3rd October, 1957, Page 35; and the book review in Scientific American, Volume 189, 1953, Page 104), which had involved de Santillana in painstaking research and also a painstaking revision of the Thomas Salusbury version. It had a 40-page historical introduction and inclusion of numerous notes. However, it is criticised for remaining muddled and inaccurate in places. It was during the course of these efforts that de Santillana had the idea of writing The Crime of Galileo (a revisionist view of events concerning Galileo's conflict with the Catholic Church.). Critics of this book pointed out errors and erroneous claims, especially in de Santillana's discussion of "Ad Lectorem." (See: The Copernican Achievement by Robert Westman (1975, page 240).) At least Professor Robert Palter (when at the University of Texas at Austin) held that de Santillana's reputation as a translator of Galilean material is low present-day. (See: Black Athena Writes Back (2001) edited by David Moore.) (Robert Palter was at least 1995-2006, Dana Professor of the History of Science (Emeritus), Trinity College, Hartford, Connecticut.) De Santillana's reputation certainly reached a low ebb with the publication of Hamlet's Mill. Giorgio de Santillana's frequent overseas trips Beginning early in the post WWII period de Santillana made a number of overseas trips to Europe. De Santillana was The Atlantic (journal) correspondent in Italy in the years immediately following the end of World War II. In 1946 at least (and probably as early as 1943) he was a foreign correspondent in Italy and Yugoslavia for The Atlantic. He made annual visits abroad during the summer. He was a Fulbright Fellow in Italy, 1954-1955. De Santillana also visited England several times (at least 1957 and 1961). The Oxford Magazine, Volume 76, 1957, reported that Giorgio de Santillana was visiting Oxford on Friday, 30th May (to lecture on "The Issues in Galileo's Trial"). It appears that de Santillana's trip to Europe in 1961 (encompassing at least Oxford, England and Naples, Italy) was at least partly in the company of Jerome Lettvin and his family. (Jerome Lettvin and family visited Naples in 1961.) De Santillana's trip to Italy may have encompassed meeting his son Ludovico and his wife Anna, and grandchildren Laura and Allessandro. (Laura is Italian, she was born in Venice (Italy) in 1955 (some sources incorrectly state 1950) and studied at the School of the Visual Arts in New York. She lives and works in Venice, Italy. Allessandro was born in 1959 in Paris (France) and was educated at The University of Venice, Venice, Italy.) The committee of the Associazione Culturale Italiana invited de Santillana to give a lecture in Turin in March, 1963, entitled "Fato antico e fato moderno" ("Ancient and Modern Ideas of Fate"). One of the major points of the lecture was the idea that "the great cosmological myths both preceded and had been the equivalent of modern science." The Experimental Epistemology Laboratory At MIT Giorgio de Santillana, Hertha von Dechend, Harald Reiche, Jerome Lettvin, Warren McCulloch, and Walter Pitts were all part of a group which called itself the Experimental Epistemology Laboratory. The name likely owes to to Warren McCulloch. (Norbert Wiener may have been also.) This was Jerome Lettvin's laboratory and office and was a gathering point for group meetings. (Jerome Lettvin's office and multiple laboratories occupied Wing C of Building 20.) For many years, Jerome Lettvin's laboratory located in the easternmost wing of ramshackle Building 20 at MIT had a sign reading "Experimental Epistemology Laboratory" on the door. Tim Wilson, writing in 2005 about his student experiences at MIT in the early 1970s, recollects that he "got to hang out at Lettvin's lab, which was a kind of nearly-never-ending bull session on everything." Norbert Wiener, Warren McCulloch, Walter Pitts, and Giorgio de Santillana discussed the construction of a practical philosophy of technology for the modern age. (Jerome Lettvin and others would also meet in Giorgio de Santillana's office.) (During 1965-1966 Douglass Carmichael - then a student - spent a lot of time with Jerry Lettvin.) In 1951 Giorgio de Santillana and Walter Pitts collaborated in a rebuttal of Erich Frank's attempt in the 1920s to reject all the fragments attributed to the 5th-century Greek philosopher Philolaus as spurious. (See: "Philolaos in Limbo, or: What Happened to the Pythagoreans?" by George de Santillana and Walter Pitts (Isis, Volume 42, Part 2, 1951, Pages 112-120).) Walter Pitts and Hertha von Dechend were also very close friends, had lots of lengthy conversations, and Walter Pitts had a small influence on Hamlet's Mill. Walter Pitts was a participating audience member for the 1961 seminar. He also prepared a critical summary of Norman Lockyer's work, The Dawn of Astronomy, which Hertha von Dechend presented as the 1961 seminar continued. (During the early 1960s Giorgio de Santillana and Walter Pitts collaborated on a book on Parmenides. It later appeared as an essay only. Walter Pitts believed that he had a metaphysical experience when he was young that enabled him to see that logic rules the universe.) Jerome Lettvin (23.2.1920-23.4.2011) was a cognitive researcher at MIT and eventually professor Emeritus of Electrical and Bioengineering and Communications Physiology. Lettvin joined MIT in 1951. In Encounter, Volumes 64-65, 1985, Page 18, Dr Jerome Lettvin is described as "Professor of Communications, Physiology, and Bio-engineering in the Departments of Computer Science, Biology, and Electrical Engineering at MIT." For a time both Jerome Lettvin and Walter Pitts lived in Walter McCulloch's house. Lettvin remained a lifelong friend of Walter Pitts. In 1943 Jerry Lettvin and Walter Pitts, both then in their early 20's, collaborated in a hoax. They coauthored a thoroughly nonsensical paper called "A Mathematical Theory of Affective Psychoses" which was published in The Bulletin of Mathematical Biophysics, December, 1943, Volume 5, Issue 4, Pages 139-148. The paper comprised an invented mixture of mathematical equations and jargon having no sensible meaning or scientific merit. Abstract: "The theory introduces two variables q and f. The first represents the intensity of emotion, the second measures the intensity of activity. A set of integrodifferential equations is assumed to govern the the variation of f and q with respect to time. Since for increasing values of the conduct of the organism varies from great impassivity through a normal level of feeling to extremes of a circular depression or catatonic excitement; whereas an increase of q results in a transition from stupor to manic excitement, the solutions of the equations represent quantitative specifications of different psychotic states." The paper concluded with the statement: "As remarked above, these are no periodic orbits in the large, and unless continually disturbed, the particle will ultimately settle toward one of the equilibria." According to Lettvin they were surprised to receive praise for the article and were also offered research funding (which they declined). Lettvin was fond of repeatedly telling people of the hoax. Not mentioned is whether papers for publication were refereed. From 1952 until his death in 1968/1969? Warren McCulloch (1898-1968/1969?) was a professor at MIT Research Laboratory of Electronics. McCulloch was a physician (who trained in neurology, 1928-1931) turned physiologist. McCulloch characterised his work as 'experimental epistemology,' the study of the nature of knowledge through understanding the nature of the brain within which it resides. 'Experimental epistemology' is a pun on the EE of 'electrical engineering.' Warren McCulloch worked with, and influenced, Jerry Lettvin at MIT. Working with Walter Pitts, McCulloch constructed a logical model of the nature of mental activity. (See: Systems Thinking by Magnus Ramage and Karen Shipp (2009, Page 28). See the Obituary for Jerome Lettvin in The Boston Globe, May 15, 2011. The Neurophysiology Research Group at MIT In the early 1960s (or perhaps even earlier) there was a Neurophysiology Research Group established at MIT. It was, at one time, involved in 9 research projects. The group's research work was supported in part by Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc.; the National Institutes of Health (Grant B-1865-(C3), Grant B-2480(C1), Grant MP-4737); The Teagle Foundation, Inc.; and in part by the U.S. Air Force (Aeronautical Systems Division) under Contract AF33(616)-7783. The research interests of this group went further than simply physiology. Among the 20-25 members of this group (the membership fluctuated) was Hertha (spelled Herta) von Dechend. Jerome Lettvin and Walter Pitts was also members. Giorgio de Santillana was not a member of the group. Walter Pitts (1923-1969) a logician who worked in the field of cognitive psychology at MIT, was teamed with a number of researchers on different research topics. Hertha von Dechend was teamed with Walter Pitts on the topic of: Evolution of Scientific Language. What exactly the content of their studies was is presently unknown to me. In one report-back by the entire group (RLE Progress Report No. 064 (1962) XXVII. Neurophysiology) von Dechend and Pitts simply state: "We intend to continue study of the origins of scientific language." There is the possibility that von Dechend joined this Group during her initial visit to the USA in 1960. (RLE = Research Laboratory of Electronics (at MIT).) The report was a quarterly progress report dated January 15, 1962 (Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Research Laboratory of Electronics. Quarterly Progress Report, Number 64). In his profile of Walter Pitts, Neil Smalheiser writes that Pitts engaged in many discussions with von Dechend. A passing reference to neurophysiology is made in Hamlet's Mill (Pages 71-72). Giorgio de Santillana's preoccupation with 'genius' and 'discovery' Mark Stahlman (son of the eminent science historian William Stahlman) has enabled some insights into Giorgio de Santillana's time at MIT and the background to Hamlet's Mill. It appears that Norbert Wiener (Professor of Mathematics at MIT, and also a capable historian) was a close collaborator with Giorgio de Santillana. Both wished to understand the nature of "genius" and "discovery." (Giorgio de Santillana was obviously not prepared to sweep aside the question of genius as many historians had frequently done.) Giorgio de Santillana was no doubt taken by the fact that many ancient cultures believed consciousness was not linear by cyclical. (Norbert Wiener had an interdisciplinary approach to his work and was known for his ability to find connections between mathematics and other fields.) In the mid-1950s Norbert Wiener turned his attention to the question of "genius." He shared his interest in "genius" with Giorgio de Santillana and other historians (both at MIT and elsewhere). Mark Stahlman believes that Hamlet's Mill is the primary statement of Norbert Wiener's investigations to understand how genius had functioned throughout history. It appears Norbert Wiener believed that the Greek-Egyptian polymath Ptolemy (Claudius Ptolemaeus, astronomer, mathematician, geographer, life dates circa 90-170 CE, resided in Roman Egypt) was the best example of genius in history. Giorgio de Santillana believed that genius and the origin of scientific discovery is to be found in the Neolithic Period. Hertha von Dechend believed that she had discovered one expression of this Neolithic Period genius and discovery, namely, knowledge of precession transmitted through mythology as a technical language. A variety of ancient/early myths were specifically designed to transmit information about precession and its observed effects. This Neolithic knowledge of precession was not general but involved the knowledge of the scientifically accurate rate of procession through an established zodiac of 12 equal divisions. Eric Voegelin in a 1970 letter to (the German prehistorian) Marie Köenig (See: Selected Correspondence 1950-1984 (2007) by Eric Voegelin et al writes "Santillana formulates it specifically as the transmission of the inorganic and biological developmental period to the human period, in which things are simply approached differently.") Giorgio de Santillana's "project group" at MIT William Stahlman, later to become a science historian and Ptolemy specialist, was a student of Giorgio de Santillana at MIT. (He was a Class of 1948, Course XXI - Humanities graduate.) More broadly he was a student of Greek and pre-Greek mathematical astronomy. In 1960 William Stahlman earned a Ph.D. from Brown University, History of Mathematics Department, under Otto Neugebauer. His doctoral dissertation was: The astronomical tables of Codex Vaticanus graecus 1291. William Stahlman had already taught at MIT, Harvard University, and University of Wisconsin prior to gaining his Ph.D. (At the time of his employment (tenureship) at University of Wisconsin in 1960 he was completing his Ph.D.) At University of Wisconsin he taught courses in science in antiquity until his death in 1975 from serious illness. In March 1963 William Stahlman gave a talk at MIT on early astronomy. Mark Stahlman states that William Stahlman was a member of Giorgio de Santillana's "project group" contributing towards Hamlet's Mill. Mark Stahlman also states that William Stahlman was a protégé of Giorgio de Santillana and was perhaps encouraged by him to study the genius of Ptolemy and his discoveries. While a student at MIT and a member of Giorgio de Santillana's "project group" Abe Aronow states he worked on the mythological and cosmological references in the Midrash and the Zohar. (This appears to have been directed by Giorgio de Santillana. Some people believe that this type of Jewish material contains precessional references. Some persons believe the secret doctrine of the Kabbalah and other Jewish mystical books/writing is precession. The Kabbalah contains what are deemed to be precessional numbers. For example see the somewhat odd book: The Universal Kabbalah: Deciphering Cosmic Code in the Sacred Geometry of the Sabbath Star Diagram by Leonora Leet (2004, Page 122).) It is difficult to accept Mark Stahlman's claim that William Stahlman was the primary resource for Hamlet's Mill. At the time of his early death in 1975 William Stahlman was with the Department of History of Science, University of Wisconsin. It would seem that Giorgio de Santillana had a practice of assigning persons (including students) to study various topics related to the "Hamlet's Mill project." It would be interesting to know just how much of this was utilised by Hertha von Dechend and incorporated into her chaotic seminar notes. Some miscellaneous associates of Giorgio de Santillana Giorgio de Santillana was advisor to George Craig (1914-2002) who taught English at Amherst College from his appointment in 1940 to his retirement in 1985. Craig received his Ph.D. in 1947. The topic of his dissertation was the 17th-century Cambridge Platonist Henry More. Craig's dissertation was, among other things, about More' prose style and in it Craig combined his literary, philosophical, and scientific interests and knowledge. A MIT seminar on archaic cosmology presented by Giorgio de Santillana? There is the likelihood that in 1965 Giorgio de Santillana may have organised and directed his own seminar on archaic cosmology and science, focusing on the period from 8000 BCE to 2000 BCE aimed at demonstrating the narrowness of the traditional historicistic vision on the origin and early development of science. (See: Italian Quarterly, Volumes 9-10, 1965, Page 87.) Circa 1965 de Santillana conducted a seminar at University of California on the early origins of scientific thought. (Italian Quarterly, Volumes 9-10, 1965, Page 87.) Giorgio de Santillana as historian and polymath Steven Wolfe describes de Santillana as a forgotten polymath, humanist, and Galileo scholar. Henry Guerlac noted his skill in discovering the unity of the history of science. An example is: Development of Rationalism and Empiricism, with Edgar Zilsel (1941, International Encyclopedia of Unified Science Foundations of the Unity of Science; Volume 2, Number 8, Pages 1-52; 2nd Edition, 1970, Volume 2, Pages 751-801). De Santillana also wrote (the pamphlet) Aspects of Scientific Rationalism in the Nineteenth Century. Guerlac also notes that de Santillana's way of viewing the rise of modern science is no longer fashionable. Steven Wolfe also states that nobody reads de Santillana anymore. However, the exception would be Hamlet's Mill. The obituary by his friend Nathan Sivin (Isis, 1976) states: "His office and classroom doors were always open. Those who passed in and out most often were among the most capacious and independent minds MIT has nurtured - Norbert Wiener, Jerome Lettvin, Warren McCullough, Philip Morrison, and Walter Pitts, to name a few." Jerome Lettvin (in 1998) described Giorgio de Santillana as "a most learned and kindly man with a mordant wit." Jerome Lettvin was an especially close friend of Giorgio de Santillana. (An article in Technology Review, Volume 69, 1966, describes circumstances where Giorgio de Santillana would "... next morning ... be in the inner book-lined fortress with Jerry Lettvin, Hertha von Dechend ...." Though de Santillana's official retirement was in 1967 this 1966 article refers to "Emeritius Giorgio de Santillana.") An example of de Santillana's ability to identify historical issues is his paper on the relations between science and medieval art. In 1957 de Santillana presented a pioneering but somewhat cryptic 30-page paper at an influential conference at the Institute for the History of Science at the University of Wisconsin, maintaining that some of the key ideas of the Scientific Renaissance - specifically new conceptions of space - were to be traced to developments in the arts. (De Santillana, Giorgio. (1959, Reprinted 1962, 1969). "The Role of Art in the Scientific Renaissance." In: Clagett, Marshall. (Editor). Critical Problems in the History of Science: Proceedings of the Institute for the History of Science at the University of Wisconsin, September 1-11, 1957. (Pages 33-64). (De Santillana may also have published a later 'paper' (1961), "A study of the relations between artistic and scientific thought in the early Renaissance.")) See especially the discussion in the book review essay "The Art of Science." by Geoffrey Cantor (reviewing The Science of Art by Martin Kemp (1990)) in the Oxford Art Journal, Volume 14, Number 1, 1991, Pages 101-104. But de Santillana had critics. In his book Love and the Idea of Europe (2009, Page 154), Luisa Passerini wrote: "... an immoderate [excessive] piece by Georges [sic] de Santillana, ... claimed that the 'Mediterranean spirit' had passed from Parmenides to Plato and from Leopardi to Valery ...." Giorgio de Santillana as teacher and writer In the decade following World War II Giorgio de Santillana was one of a handful of scholars who ensured that the history of science as a discipline was established on a firm scientific footing. It is worth mentioning that Giorgio de Santillana was usually an excellent writer. (He was a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences; and a member of the History of Science Society.) During the 1940s and 1950s he was a contributor to The New Republic, and the Atlantic Monthly. In 1958 he was honoured with the Sidney Hilman Foundation journalism award (magazine reporting category) for his article "Galileo and J. Robert Oppenheimer." (The Reporter (1958)). At MIT Giorgio de Santillana was considered a visionary philosopher. Both de Santillana and Lettvin were regarded as excellent teachers by their students. (Giorgio de Santillana wrote 5 articles on Italian literature for the first edition of the Columbia Dictionary of Modern European Literature (1947). It is perhaps worth mentioning that Giorgio de Santillana was one of a number of visiting professors at La Scuola Italiana di Middlebury College (Scuola Italian or Casa Italiano), one of the Summer Language Schools of Middlebury College (located at Middlebury Campus, Green Mountains of Vermont).) In 1954 he was elected a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. His residence at this time was Cambridge, Massachusetts. In 1958 the journal Isis (Volume 49, Pages 2) noted that de Santillana was preparing the papers of Vincenzio Viviani for publication. (Vincenzio Viviani (1622-1703), was an Italian mathematician and philosopher to the Grand Ducal Court in Tuscany, and also Galileo's scientific secretary.) He was Fulbright Teaching Fellow in Italy, 1954-1955. The Monthly Supplement, 1955, Page 1742, for the International Who's Who states: "Fulbright fellow in Italy, 1954-1955." (See also: Harper's Magazine, Volume 212, 1956.) In 1964 (April 16), de Santillana gave The Wilkins Lecture: Galileo Today. It appeared in the Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, Volume 280, 1964, Pages 447-? Critique by Otto Neugebauer of the inaccuracies of Giorgio de Santillana as an historian of early science For a short critique by Otto Neugebauer of the inaccuracies of Giorgio de Santillana as an historian of early science see "The Survival of Babylonian Methods in the Exact Sciences of Antiquity and Middle Ages." in Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society, Volume 107, Number 6, December 20, 1963, Page 531. See also the short critique of Giorgio de Santillana by Asger Aaboe in the book review "Historians of Science." in The Yale Review, Volume 52, Winter, 1962, Pages 326-328. Further, see the short critique by Marshall Clagett, of de Santillana's uncritical acceptance that Thales predicted a solar eclipse in 585 BCE, in The American Historical Review, Volume LXVII, Number 4, July, 1962, Page 999. Giorgio de Santillana also supported the views of Frances Yates on the Hermetic tradition in the Renaissance. (See his enthusiastic review (endorsement) of her 1964 book Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition in The American Historical Review, Volume 70, Number 2, January, 1965, Pages 455-457. (This was an influential book that helped to catapult her to academic stardom.)) In 1966 de Santillana (through the Department of Humanities and its Course XXI Club) arranged a lecture by Frances Yates on "Renaissance Science and Hermetic Tradition" at the Hayden Library Lounge (Room 14E-310). However, see the extended, devastating analysis of Frances Yates as a historian and scholar by the academic Christopher Lehrich in his book The Occult Mind (2007). Her personal opinions are presented as assumed facts. Many of her assumptions and conclusions have been refuted by more modern scholarship. It is clear her historical reconstructions were wildly speculative and lack any real evidence. Her ideas now have no solid academic support and historical explanations of the Renaissance proceed without them. See also the discussion of the "Yates thesis": "Natural magic, hermeticism, and occultism in early modern science." by Brian Copenhaver, in: David Lindberg and Robert Westman (Editors), Reappraisals of the Scientific Revolution (1990, Pages 261-301). For de Santillana's errors and exaggerations regarding Leonardo da Vinci's use of Latin texts see Theories of Vision from al-Kindi to Kepler by David Lindberg (1981, Page 155). (See also: Charles Olson & Cid Corman: Complete correspondence 1950-1964 by Charles Olson and Cid Corman (1987, 2 Volumes, Page 243); edited by George Evans for the comment "(... Giorgio de Santillana, now Prof at MIT) who is bright enough, but who never found a keel for their cut-water in themselves ....)." See also: Letters for 'Origin' 1950-1956 by Charles Olson 1968/9 (Page 155); edited by Alfred Glover.) First meeting between Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend Giorgio de Santillana first met Hertha von Dechend when he participated in a symposium organised by Willy Hartner at the Institut für Geschichte der Naturwissenschaften, in Frankfurt, in 1958. (By way of mentioning both were smokers - he a mainly a pipe and she cigarettes.) She sent him a summary of her ideas on precessional mythology in 1959 and he immediately accepted her arguments. (Giorgio de Santillana's close support helped the credibility of Hertha von Dechend's ideas. Without the good luck of meeting him her ideas would undoubtedly have remained little known.) (Another version of their 1958 meeting holds that they identified that, by different routes, both had independently reached the conclusion that world-wide myths at the end of the prehistoric era used metaphors to describe celestial phenomena, especially the precession of the equinoxes.) One source holds that during her PhD research (for Die kultische und mythische Bedeutung des Schweins in Indonesien und Ozeanien (completed 1939) von Dechend realised for the first time that the myths of the South Seas inhabitants could only be understood if their science, especially astronomy, is decrypted. However, this ignores the earlier influence of Leo Frobenius and Panbabylonism. After von Dechend completed her Habilitation (teaching qualification (involving writing another thesis and giving a presentation), university level) in 1960 de Santillana invited her to the USA that same year for a lake trip vacation. (Her habilitation (Habilitationsschrift) was titled: Der Mythos von der gebauten Welt als Ausdrucksform archaischer Naturwissenschaft. This was the precursor to Hamlet's Mill.) (De Santillana's actual intention was to bring von Dechend to MIT to be a collaborator on a project/book on precessional mythology.) (This Hamlet's Mill project - judging from the state of von Dechend's seminar notes - appears to have been rather chaotic from start to finish. The authors acknowledge in Hamlet's Mill: "Much of the research for this book was supported by a grant from the Twentieth Century Fund." Considering that it was funded research the end result hardly justified the funding.) Giorgio de Santillana's several marriages One puzzle concerned several authors maintaining that Giorgio de Santillana was married. Bruce Mazlish, a long-serving Professor of History at MIT, recounts Giorgio de Santillana was known as "the cat who walks alone." (Possible a reference to his late-night solo walks on MIT campus.) MIT colleague information is that he remained a bachelor. It was popularly believed that he was a bachelor. Neil Smalheiser (2000) described him as a "bachelor popular with the ladies." De Santillana was described as having considerable charm. (I am also informed that another person who knew him well described him as being quite a womaniser.) However, after considerable research, I identified in 2009 that a number of persons asserted that he was married (at one time) and his wife Dorothy de Santillana was senior editor/managing editor at Houghton Mifflin Company (Trade Division). (See for example: Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography by James Sloan (1996, Page 173; and Sunset and Twilight: From the Diaries of 1947-1958 by Bernard Berenson (1963, Page 373).) In his mid 40s Giorgio de Santillana married Dorothy Tilton. Who was Who in America with World Notables (2007, Page 110, Entry: Giorgio de Santillana) states that Giorgio de Santillana married Dorothy Tilton on September 1, 1948. The issue of de Santillana's marriage(s) is somewhat intriguing. When I recently (September, 2009) asked the ever competent and prolific researcher and writer Richard Flavin for assistance he promptly resolved the issue for me. The biography for Giorgio de Santillana in the Gale online database (2009) Contemporary Authors Online states in [September] 1948 he married Dorothy Hancock Tilton. I have since identified Contemporary Authors: New Revision Series, Volume 100 (2001, Page 117) edited by Scot Peacock as a source. (They also had two sons: Ludovico and Gerald.) It appears that at the time of their marriage they lived in an apartment at 84 Mt. Vernon Street on Beacon Hill (Boston, across from the common) and later moved to a house in Beverly Farms, a neighbourhood at the eastern edge of the city of Beverly (Massachusetts), some 20 miles north of Boston. (The Social Register, Boston (1949, Page 69 lists (somewhat cryptically): Mr & Mrs Giorgio Diaz Santillana (Dorothy Hillyer). (This Beverly house is described by James Watson (Avoid Boring People: Lessons for a Life in Science (2007, Page 221) as an "elegant large square wooden house.") Stanley H. Hillyer (H. Tilton) is also mentioned. The Social Register (1952, Page 45 lists: Mr & Mrs Giorgio Diaz Santillana (Dorothy H. Tilton Hillyer), Beverly Cove, Massachusetts.) Richard Flavin also kindly brought to my attention the obituary for Dorothy de Santillana in The Boston Globe (a daily newspaper) for 25th June, 1980, Page 1. The Gale database entry opens doors. At least by 1955 Dorothy Tilton was still signing her letters Dorothy de Santillana. Tracing Ludovico de Santillana and Gerald de Santillana is presently a little more perplexing. Giorgio de Santillana dedicated his book The Crime of Galileo (1955) to Ludovico and Anna de Santillana and included the date 28th December, 1953, and the Latin abbreviation Q.B.F.S. They are clearly identifiable as Ludovico de Santillana (architect and glass artist, March 6, 1931 (Rome) - March 15, 1989 (Arezzo)) and Anna Venini (glass artist, and a daughter of Paolo Venini (and Ginette Gignous), glass artist) who married in 1953. However, in her book My years at Villa I Tatti (1980, Page 63) Eleanor Murdock mentions a person named Ludovico de Santillana as being a son of Giorgio and also mentions Ludovico's wife Anna. (The glass artists Ludovico and Anna de Santillana had 2 children, Laura de Santillana (Laura Diaz de Santillana) (born in Venice, Italy, 1955 (some sources incorrectly state 1950), and starting 1977 studied at the School of Visual Arts in New York, previously attended Liceo classico, Venice, Italy ) and Alessandro de Santillana (who became an architect). Currently (2011) Laura de Santillana lives in Venice and works in Murano. She is described as an "artist who has created exceptional and sometimes unexpected examples of art glass.") In their book Italian Glass, Murano, Milan, 1930-1970: The Collection of the Steinberg Foundation (Art & Design) (1997, Page 322) the authors Helmut Ricke and Eva Schmitt state that Ludovico Diaz de Santillana (born 1931, Rome - died (after a lengthy illness) 1989, Arezzo) was the son of the philosopher Giorgio Diaz de Santillana. (Ludovico Diaz de Santillana, (Architect, designer, and entrepreneur), 1937-1949, attended and graduated from a French High School in Rome; 1949-1956, studied architecture in Venice. He graduated with a degree in Architecture.) Information on Gerald de Santillana is presently more difficult and uncertain. A person named Gerald de Santillana attended Pomona College and in 1960 his B.A. Thesis was British public opinion on the Sepoy mutiny, 1857-1858. The Foreign Service List (1962) by the United States Department of State lists Gerald L de Santillana. In 1966 at least a Gerald de Santillana was a political officer at the U.S. Embassy in Lima. In the 1970s and 1980s a Gerald de Santillana was Director of the Bureau of Inter-American Affairs. (See: A history of organized labor in Peru and Ecuador by Robert Alexander and Eldon Parker (2007, Page 89).) In 2005 a Gerald de Santillana is mentioned as a significant donor in Partners of the Americas: 2005 Annual Report. Some names and dates appear less puzzling if Giorgio de Santillana had a family in Rome prior to coming to the USA from Paris in 1936. Additionally, the Italian architect Ludovico Diaz de Santillana is stated to have brothers. Urban Glass (Fall, 2009, Volume 7, Issue 3, Page 3) states that Laura Venini Hillyer was the sister of (the late) Anna Diaz de Santillana (who was the wife of Ludovico de Santillana). It presently appears that the/an Italian-born son of Giorgio de Santillana, Ludovico de Santillana, married Anna Venini (de Santillana) (a daughter of the lawyer and famous glass artist Paolo Venini (1895-1959)) in 1953, and the son of Dorothy Tilton Hillyer, Stanley Hancock Hillyer, married Laura Venini (Hillyer) (another daughter of Paolo Venini) a year later in 1954. Anna Venini de Santillana is presently a consultant of the Fondazione Giorgio Cini in Venice. Biographical information for Dorothy Tilton Dorothy Tilton was born in 1904(1906?) and died unexpectedly in 1980. (See entries under Hillyer in: American Women, Volume 1, 1935, Page 412; and Principal Women of America, Volume 2, 1936, Page 191.) Dorothy Tilton was the daughter of John Tilton (1870- ?) and Elizabeth (Seeley) Tilton. John Tilton was a wealthy real estate and insurance broker residing in Haverill (an upper-middle class suburb north of Boston, Massachusetts. (He was sufficiently prosperous to collect art.) In the Report, Humane Society of Massachusetts, for 1908, John Tilton is mentioned as receiving their Bronze Medal (connected with actions during a drowning incident?) Dorothy Tilton was born in Haverhill, Massachusetts, attended Goucher College, and was a graduate of Radcliffe College (a women's liberal arts college in Cambridge, Massachusetts, affiliated with Harvard University). Dorothy de Santillana is variously described as "beautiful and enormously fat," "fat and fierce," (it appears she had a rare glandular condition), "daunting," "formidably outgoing," "a great natural force," and a "wonderful editor." (It was also stated that "men gravitated to her like flies.") One writer described Dorothy de Santillana as "holding great personal prestige." In 1926 Dorothy Tilton married the poet Robert Hillyer (1895-1961), who was one of her teachers at Radcliffe College, and in 1943 they were divorced (in Reno). In the US Federal Census for 1930 both Robert Hillyer and Dorothy Hillyer are listed as teachers in Windham County, Connecticut. Robert Hillyer was married 3 times. In 1937 Robert Hillyer was named Boylston Professor of Rhetoric and Oratory at Harvard College. He received a Pulitzer Prize for poetry in 1934 for The Collected Poems of Robert Hillyer (1933). He dedicated the book to his wife and son. In 1944 he retired to Old Greenwich, Connecticut. Robert Hillyer and Dorothy Tilton had a single child, a son, Stanley Hancock Hillyer. After serving as book editor of The Boston Globe in the late 1930s and very early 1940s, she joined Houghton Mifflin Co. of Boston as an assistant editor in 1941. Between 1941 and 1969 Dorothy Tilton was progressively Editor, then Managing Editor (Trade Department of Houghton Mifflin), then Senior Editor at Houghton Mifflin Company in Boston. From 1969 onwards she was Executive Editor. (In 1936 she was one of a small group of people who established in Brooklyn an associated chapter of New York's Museum of Modern Art. ) She retired in 1973. During her editorial career of more than 30 years with Houghton Mifflin Company she was principally an editor of fiction, although she also dealt with other literary forms and was recognised for discovering and developing of young talent. Among writers with whom she worked were Jerzy Kosinski, Archibald MacLeish and Willie Morris. Whether Dorothy Tilton was ever divorced or legally separated from Giorgio de Santillana is not yet known. It is likely that neither was the case, but it appears there was a rift in the marriage. (The Massachusetts Death Index gives her name as "Dorothy Desantillana.") At the time of her death she lived on Curtis Point (The Massachusetts Death Index states Beverly, Massachusetts). The estate of Dorothy de Santillana was sold at auction on Friday, June 26, 1981, by Christie, Manson & Woods International Inc (New York). Dorothy de Santillana (played by Helen Coxe) was a character in the 2009 movie Julie and Julia (based on the autobiographical book of the same name). According to The Boston Globe, Dorothy de Santillana had two grandchildren, Elizabeth and Francesca Hillyer, both of Beverly. (No children of Dorothy de Santillana are mentioned.) Elizabeth Hillyer is a veterinarian and part editor of the book Ferrets, Rabbits, and Rodents: Clinical Medicine and Surgery (1996). Francesca Hillyer is an educationalist(?) and part author of Diversity in Action (1998). Stanley Hillyer (1927-1969) graduated from MIT and in the mid 1940s completed postgraduate studies at Phillips Exeter Academy in Exeter, New Hampshire. In 1948 he was living in Boston; in 1950 he graduated from MIT; and in 1954 he married Laura Venini at Venice, Italy, and they had a family of two daughters (Elisabeth Hillyer and Francesca Hillyer). His wife, Laura Venini Hillyer, was vice president of Vignelli Associates, a New York design concern. Stanley Hillyer was the executive vice president of Far Eastern operations for Raytheon in Waltham, Massachusetts. In 1966 he was named its senior corporate representative in the Far East with headquarters in Tokyo. (He died in the USA.) Giorgio de Santillana's written estate Giorgio de Santillana's papers are held by the MIT Archives. One letter by Dorothy de Santillana and 21 letters by Giorgio de Santillana are held in the George Sarton Papers Archive at Houghton Library, Harvard College Library. (Included is a a curriculum vitae dated 1943.) Correspondence from both Giorgio de Santillana and Dorothy de Santillana are held in the Archibald MacLeish Archive, Manuscript Division, Library of Congress (Correspondence Box 20). (Archibald MacLeish (1892-1982) was a poet.) Letters by Dorothy de Santillana are also held in the Julia Childs Papers Archive at Radcliffe College. Correspondence from Giorgio de Santillana is held at the Harry Ransom Center, the University of Texas at Austin, and his letters are also in the Norbert Wiener Papers collection at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The Robert Hillyer Papers are held at at Syracuse University Library. The University of Chicago Press Records, 1892-1965, Special Collections Research Center, University of Chicago Library, contains files on de Santillana's books published by the Press. Biography of Hertha von Dechend Hertha von Dechend was born in Heidelberg, Germany, in 1915. Her parents were Alfred von Dechend and Elsbeth (née Krohn). Dr. Alfred von Dechend was a Chemist. In 1913 he completed his doctoral dissertation on chemistry; Üeber die genaue Messung der Lichtbrechung in Gasen; at Ruprecht-Carls-Universität zu Heidelberg. From 1907-1910 he was assistant to Professor Max Trautz (sometimes misspelled as Trauts) in Freiburg in Baden. Hertha von Dechend studied ethnology, philosophy, and archaeology at the University of Frankfurt am Main. She obtained her doctorate in 1939. In 1943 she was Assistant, Institute for the History of Science, Frankfurt am Main. In 1966 she was Associate Professor. Von Dechend died in 2001 after a short but severe illness. Music was a serious career challenger for Hertha von Dechend. At 13 years of age she received violin lessons from Gösta Andreasson who was a renowned classical violinist for the Busch String Quartet (was 2nd violinist). At 15 years of age von Dechend made a decision in favour of a career in science but never completely separated herself from music. Throughout her early academic career she continued to play violin with various classical string quartets. When she was 19 years old, von Dechend began informal studies at the Museum für Völkerkunde in Frankfurt. (Since 2001 known as the Museum der Weltkulturen (Museum of World Cultures).) The museum was directed by Leo Frobenius (who lacked formal training as an anthropologist/ethnologist) until his death in 1938. Initally, von Dechend lacked permission to study (Studienerlaubnis), but managed to obtain a certificate (Abiturzeugnis). Her difficulties were related to her staunch and public opposition to Nazism, which led her to disguise her interests with focuses on archaeology and the study of ancient languages. After performing her obligatory national service (Arbeitsdienst), von Dechend enrolled at the University of Frankfurt am Main (the Johann Wolfgang Goethe University). In 1939, during World War 2, she completed her doctoral thesis on an ethnological subject; the cultic and mythological meaning of the pig in Indonesia and Oceania. In 1943, von Dechend held a half-time position at the Institute for the History of Science in Johann Goethe University (now the University of Frankfurt am Main). It appears she played an integral part in running the university when Willy Hartner, the founder of the Institute for the History of Natural Sciences, was on leave at Harvard. Von Dechend was also instrumental in building the university's library. She became a professor in 1960 and joined the faculty of the History of Natural Sciences in 1966. After the publication of Hamlet's Mill in 1969 and the death of Giorgio de Santillana in 1974 she continued to visit MIT and hold/teach seminars (on ancient cosmology). Interestingly, Hertha von Dechend was a member of the International Astronomical Union sub-group, Inter-Union Commission for the History of Astronomy (ICHA). In 1960 Hertha von Dechend was Professor of cultural morphology. Her listings in academic directories (at later dates) include: (1) Fünfzig Jahre Habilitation von Frauen in Deutschland by Elisabeth Boedeker and Maria Meyer-Plath (1974) "Folk-Narrative Research ... 1966 Spezielles Lehrund Forshungsgebeit: Geschichte der Naturwissenschaften, Archaische Kosmologie und Astronomie." (2) Berichte zur Wissenschaftsgeschichte, Volumes 2-3, 1979 "Lehrgebiet: Frühgeschichte der Naturwissenschaft; Forschungsschwerpunkt: archaische Kosmologie." (3) Geschichte in Wissenschaft und Unterricht, [Volume 41, Issues 7-12, Page 634], 1990 "Gestchichte der Naturwissenschaften, Archaische Kosmologie." She retired from the University of Frankfurt am Main, becoming a Professor Emeritus (Archaische Kosmologie) in 1980?/1982. Hertha von Dechend retired in 1982 on a modest pension (enabled by her having secured a permanent teaching position with the university). For details concerning von Dechend as an ethnologist see Frauen in der deutschsprachigen Ethnologie: ein Handbuch (2007) by Bettina Beer. It contains brief details of the other 2 female ethnologists (Hildegard Klein (1904-1989, PhD, an excellent ethnologist and scholar) and Karin [Hahn-]Hissink (1907-1981), PhD, who participated in ethnological expeditions) employed at the Frobenius-Institute, and conflicts. Also see: Leo Frobenius, anthropologue, explorateur, aventurierle monde étranger, c'est moi (1999) by Hans-Jürgen Heinrichs, for further brief details of Hertha von Dechend. Von Dechend died in 2001 (aged 86) at Kronberg near Frankfurt am Main. Kronberg im Taunus is a town in the Hochtaunuskreis district, Hesse, Germany. She continued to work until shortly before her death. Her address was apparently Bahnhofstrasse 30, Kronberg, D-61476? Hertha von Dechend was a good friend of German internist Franz Volhard (1872-1950, a famous German specialist in internal medicine) and his extended family. Due to her continued close relationship with the Volhard family she was buried in the Volhard family tomb. According to Wikipedia (26/1/2013): "Von Dechend is best known for her collaborative work on Hamlet's Mill: an Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time, co-authored with Giorgio de Santillana, an Italian-American philosopher and historian of science on the faculty at MIT. Hamlet's Mill is a study of history, mythology, and specifically archaeoastronomy. Von Dechend's contribution was to connect astronomical phenomena to the myths that they represented and to clear up historical misinterpretations of those myths." This is simply sympathetic (biased) and inaccurate. Close to the truth is the comment by one writer that Hertha von Dechend "... spent her life reinterpreting ancient stories as a kind of scientific shorthand for astronomical events." Her principal fields of research were archaic cosmology and astronomy. Von Dechend published two papers on archaic cosmology: "Il concetto Tues simmetria arcaiche tional culture" (1973) and "Comments on the Thunderbolt" (1977) in the Willy Hartner Festschrift. Von Dechend also undertook research on the work of Justus von Liebig, a well-known organic chemist, publishing a review of letters between Liebig and chemist Friedrich Wöhler of Göttingen. Her slim book (in which her role was that of an editor) on Justus von Liebig (published 1953, 2nd edition 1963) basically consists of her annotations to key excerpts from letters, journals and newspaper articles (chronologically arranged) concerning important events involving Justus von Liebig; and a bibliography of 369 publications. One (English-language) book review (by Ralph Oesper, University of Cincinnati, Ohio) appeared in the Journal of Chemical Education, Volume 41, Number 10, October, 1964. His concluding remark is: "This is an unusually interesting book." Unpublished works include her doctoral dissertation and her Habilitationsschrift (a postdoctoral thesis required for qualification as a professor), but the resources that she used to complete them still exist. Hertha von Dechend's influence on Giorgio de Santillana There is little doubt that de Santillana's existing beliefs concerning the origins of intelligence and early science predisposed him to readily accepting von Dechend's ideas. De Santillana was keen to introduce revolutionary ideas, such as an early (Neolithic period) date for the establishment of scientific (astronomical) knowledge, into the history of science. Manfred Pokert, The theoretical foundations of Chinese medicine (1974), Page xi, mentions a seminar of Giorgio de Santillana's in existentialism which was centred on the beginnings of scientific thought. Hertha von Dechend at MIT De Santillana's advice enabled Hertha von Dechend to receive a Sloan Foundation grant for post-graduate studies at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) where he lectured. He also assisted her to become a research associate (within the Humanities Department) at MIT. (Within a university the title research associate is given to post-doctorates who are conducting post-doctoral research. Hertha von Dechend's research would have been leading towards the book Hamlet's Mill.) It would also appear that Hertha von Dechend remained a research associate at MIT throughout the 1960s and between 1960 and 1969 either stayed in the USA or made regular (annual) lengthy research and teaching visits to MIT. During this period, with leave-of-absence from Frankfurt University, she apparently resided in the USA for at least a considerable number of years on one visit. Some sources hold she resided in the USA from 1960 to 1969. (Yet another source suggests she was a research associate at MIT for 5 winters from 1962 to 1967.) The most reliable source states that 1960-1969 she made regular research and teaching visits to to MIT. (This period was her only break with her otherwise continuous employment, since November 1943, at the Institut für Geschichte der Naturwissenschaften, Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität, in Germany (founded by Willy Hartner). In 1969 she returned to the University of Frankfort and her post as Professor of the History of Science (and Emeritius from 1980). (The Wikipedia article on Hamlet's Mill (January, 2010) erroneously identifies her as a scientist.)) (According to one source at the Institut für Geschichte der Naturwissenschaften her regular research and teaching visits to MIT spanned 1960-1969. According to another source she was a research associate at MIT for five winters spanning, 1962-1967. Naturwissenschaftliche Rundschau, is now perhaps the best guide. Naturwissenschaftliche Rundschau, Volumes 16-17, 1963, Page 458, has Hertha von Dechend as: Priv.-Doz. (Privatdozent (= holding all formal qualifications (both doctorate and habilitation) [unsalaried lecturer if a formal position not held?]) researching at MIT for winter semester 1964/1965 (... wird im WS 1964/65 zu Forschungszwecken am Massachusetts Institute of Technology ....). According to Who's who in Germany 1990: Part 1, A-L, Page 254: "Dechend ... spent six winter terms in visiting capacity at MIT, Cambridge, Mass., USA. 1960-1967 ...." (Once again, other sources give 1960-1969.) Hertha von Dechend's MIT seminars on archaic cosmology It would appear that Giorgio de Santillana organised the two seminars on archaic cosmology at MIT (in 1961 and 1966) that Hertha von Dechend lectured at. (It also appears that de Santillana was reliant on Lettvin for advice on organising seminars.) Von Dechend presented, at least in 1966, the topic titled "Introduction to Ancient Cosmology." It also appears that at these seminars Giorgio de Santillana actually gave most of the presentations. (Hertha von Dechend, though considered an excellent presenter and able to demonstrate enormous learning, was not comfortable speaking in English - her lack of fluency in English was a major barrier.) On several occasions Jerome Lettvin presented (but I am not sure during which year(s)). (See his articles: "The Use of Myth." in Technology Review, Volume 78, Number 7, 1976, Pages 52-57, 63; and "The Gorgon's Eye." in Technology Review, Volume 80, Number 2, 1977, Pages 74-83. Technology Review is an MIT publication.) (See also: Technology Review, Volumes 80-81, 1977, Pages 100.) The core persons for the two seminars in the 1960s were undoubtedly Giorgio de Santillana, Hertha von Dechend, Harald Reiche, Jerome Lettvin, and Philip Morrison. In her 1961 seminar notes Hertha von Dechend refers to seminar speakers (plural). The language of some parts of the 1961 seminar notes indicate that sometimes it is Giorgio de Santillana that is presenting. This leads to the conclusion that her seminar notes reflect what was jointly presented by multiple presenters. (The collection of essays comprising the book Astronomy of the Ancients edited by Kenneth Brecher and Michael Fiertag (1979) was published in the same year as the last MIT seminar on ancient astronomy given by Hertha von Dechend. Both editors were MIT staff and 3 of the 8 essays were by MIT staff. Many of the essays in it can be considered an extension of Hamlet's Mill.) Lettvin was one of the few academic supporters and exponents of the views of Hertha von Dechend. See: "The Use of Myth: The tales of the Makers are the first language of science." by Jerome Lettvin (Technology Review, June, 1976, Pages 52-59). No syllabus for any of the Archaic Cosmology/Ancient cosmology seminars appears to have survived. No evidence of a syllabus exists in her course notes. A syllabus is an outline or a summary of the main points of a text, lecture, or course of study. A reference to "Hertha von Dechend, syllabus for a course in ancient cosmology, MIT, spring, 1966, pages 38, 40.6." is somewhat cryptic. Unfortunately, the nature of von Dechend's involvement with the [Introduction to] Archaic Cosmology seminars at MIT, though mentioned by both herself and Uta Lindgren, are not clearly explained. (The seminars are nowhere mentioned in The Tech, MIT's oldest and largest newspaper, established in 1881.) In his book The Time Falling Bodies Take to Light (1996, Page 268) William Thompson states that Hertha von Dechend was [at least 1966-1967] part of the Department of Humanities at MIT. In his book The Time Falling Bodies Take to Light (1996, Page 268) William Thompson writes: "... Hertha von Dechend's syllabus for her course in "Ancient Cosmology" given at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1966-67." (At this time William Thompson (a cultural historian) was Associate Professor of Humanities (i.e., Associate Professor of Literature) Department of Humanities, MIT, and a colleague of Hertha von Dechend. According to William Thompson, in 1966 he was working as an instructor at MIT, in the Humanities.) It is indicated by some sources that they were not student seminars but seminars specifically convened for specialist academics. However, this may not be quite correct. The neurologist and psychiatrist Jerome Lettvin, a former professor at MIT and close associate of both Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend, recollects that each year the seminars were held there were a series of 5 or 6 seminars that would span a single term (or per each term for the year?) and the duration of each seminar was around 2 hours. (The organising of the seminars by way of fixing the dates was sporadic.) Circa 1967 Jerome Lettvin was focused on teaching the "History of experimental approaches to epistemology." Hertha von Dechend's lecture notes for the 1966 seminars are marked "Autumn, 1966, Introduction to Ancient Cosmology." For the 1979 seminars her lecture notes are simply marked "Fall, 1979." (The seminar title seems to have consistently been: Introduction to Ancient Cosmology. This was the exact title used for the 1966 seminar.) The seminars were open to everybody - students, faculty, and the public. The seminars were possibly held in the Charles Hayden Memorial Library Lounge (Hayden Library Lounge, Room 14E-310 (also written as 14-E310)). (The starting time was likely 5.00 pm and the finishing time was likely 7.00 pm.) This room was frequently utilised by Giorgio de Santillana, and also other Humanities Department staff, when organising the presentation of lectures by visiting academics. (It was located on level 4 mezzanine?) It was the Humanities Library (built 1950), and Giorgio de Santillana was in the Humanities Department. The American Historical Association Newsletter, Volume 6, 1967, noted de Santillana's retirement in that year. The (3-hour) colloquium to honour Giorgio de Santillana on his retirement was held in the Hayden Library Lounge (in May, 1967) which comfortably seated two hundred attendees. (The exact location of 14E-310 is a little confusing. Building 14E is described as being located near the Hayden Library. The address for 14E-310 appears as 160 Memorial Drive, Cambridge.) During 1961 at least Giorgio de Santillana was teaching the course "The Origins of Scientific Thought." Immediately before his retirement he was focused on teaching Greek and Renaissance scientific thought. At the time of his death in 1974 Giorgio de Santillana was Professor Emeritus, History and Philosophy of Science, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. According to Phil Norfleet, a student of de Santillana at MIT during the 1960s, de Santillana's seminars were usually reserved for graduate students. An article in Technology Review, Volumes 80-81, 1977, makes a reference to a Santillana?/Dechend seminar at MIT. This may have clarifying information. The puzzle presently remains. Ernest McClain (Bibal (Bibal Study Group, December 6, 2006) identifies MIT seminars and at least 1 presentation event at Boston, whilst Yas Maeyama (Obituary for Hertha von Dechend, UniReport 5, 2001) mentions special yearly symposiums in Boston to which people were invited. According to Yas Maeyama von Dechend was invited each year to a special symposium in Boston (on archaic cosmology?). Hertha von Dechend's papers from a 1976/1977 seminar on ancient cosmology are available. Ernst McClain (2 personal communications, May 6, 2012): [Regarding MIT.] "Reiche invited me to lead one evening discussion for about 3 hours, as I remember, perhaps 6:9 p.m. or thereabout, around 1980 [perhaps 1977?]. I talked, there was very little discussion, and none with her except for a few minutes in his office. They were intent on giving me a chance to explain myself to their own total bewilderment, I believe in the interim between two essays that Reiche himself published on Atlantis. [Regarding Boston.] Ernest McClain (e-mail, 6th November 2011) has given more details: "Forty years [ago], and at M.I.T. where I led a 3-hour seminar with zero understanding from the professor who invited me; he could not imagine "a musical fifth" as part of an octave." About 1992-3 Jon Polansky [Dr. Jon Polansky, Research Scientist, Associate Professor, University of California, San Francisco], then editor of ESOP [Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers], invited me to a week- long conference in Boston, putting up those of us from out of town up in a hotel where we met all morning and afternoon for a serious (sic) [series] of many presentations and vigorous discussion, and at lunch and dinner. That was an extremely valuable experience for me, but I cannot remember if she [Hertha von Dechend] actually made a presentation, which seems likely. We were each given perhaps an hour or more followed by detailed scrutiny. But I cannot add any detail to what happened at M.I.T. I never met de Santillana whose feeling for Pythagoreanism was deep and articulate. HAMLET'S MILL was clearly her work, he makes clear, completely ignoring his own brilliant introduction. It was NOT possible to discuss music or math with Reiche and von Dechend. Unfortunately, it took me another 30 years to discover the overlap between us concerning Holy Mountain Meru, twin-peaked within 60^5=777,600,000, that I had mishandled at every effort within THE MYTH OF INVARIANCE. ... It [MIT] was in the process of disengaging from a 1950s effort to integrate other humanist studies. .... [Note: In the 1960s MIT was given a grant from the Carnegie Corporation to design new courses in the humanities for scientists and engineers. William Thompson, who stayed 3 years at MIT, was involved in this. He designed a particular new course.] As I remember me (sic) [my] one appearance at M.I.T. there may have been 20 or 30 listeners. There was no pointed questioning of assumptions, data, or conclusions. It was a "non-event." At the Boston conclave under Polansky, there were about a dozen of us, and the interchange was considerable and people were gracious. He belonged at M.I.T." (Note: Polansky, a cultural diffusionist, at that period of time was an associate professor of medicine at the University of California at San Francisco Medical Center and the director of the laboratory that first isolated and cloned the gene responsible for glaucoma; he was a student of Barry Fell's at Harvard in the 1960s.) It would appear that Reiche and von Dechend held another MIT (ancient cosmology ?) seminar in 1977 (or thereabouts) which was entirely focused on the ideas of McClain, and at which he was the sole presenter. Then circa 1992-1993 both McClain and von Dechend were invited attendees and presenters at annual conference organised by the Epigraphic Society (on ancient cosmology ?). To my question whether the composition of the MIT audience of 20-30 persons were professionals or students, or both, Ernst McClain emailed (8/5/12): "I took them to be students. The Boston conference was private to ESOP members and guests." Hertha von Dechend's MIT course notes My copy of Hertha von Dechend's MIT course notes (purchased from a bookseller in France) may not be entirely complete, at least regarding the "cover pages." Only 2 course codes are given. These course codes are: (1) 21.93 T, Autumn, 1966; and (2) 21.965 J = STS 630 J, Fall, 1979. These course codes, even given my remoteness in time and space and familiarity, help to identify the nature of her MIT seminars. The number 21 identifies Course XXI (= Humanities) that was begun in 1952 at MIT. This identifies that the seminars were conducted as part of (or under the auspices of) Course XXI (Humanities). STS is the MIT abbreviation for: Science, Technology, and Society. The seminars (or at least the latter 2) would seem to be presented as part of the Independent Activities Period (IAP) which is a special 4-week term held each year that runs from the first week of January until the end of January. The IAP provides members of the MIT community (students, faculty, staff, and alumni) with the opportunity to organise, sponsor, and participate in a wide variety of activities, including forums and lecture series that are not possible during the semester. All of these short courses of one term duration, were, and still are, open to the MIT university community. (It appears that for "Ancient Cosmology" there were 6 seminars per term of approximately 2 hours each.) Judging by recent examples a seminar series conducted during this short term would, and still do, usually consist of a weekly evening lecture of 2-3 hours (by one of more presenters), some expected core reading, and some minor essays/projects. (An IAP could also occur during the Spring.) Strictly speaking Winter (89 days) begins on December 21. Autumn/Fall (90 days) begins on September 22. The nature of the seminar coding, however, seems to clearly support this type of identification of von Dechend's seminars. (According to William Thompson (The Time Falling bodies Take to Light) Hertha von Dechend (Spring, 1966) issued a detailed syllabus for "... her course in "Ancient Cosmology" given at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1966-67." From memory this is the only reference to one of her MIT seminars extending across 2 years.) Hertha von Dechend's unpublished lecture notes Her unpublished lecture manuscripts (described as 15 typed, bound volumes, averaging 120 pages in length, of her Frankfurt University lectures) are now in the Renaissance Institute at the University of Frankfort. David Ulansey posted to The Mithras List (February 3, 2002): "... A number of years ago I had lunch at M.I.T. with Hertha von Dechend and her friend Harold Reiche (an M.I.T. professor). After lunch, Reiche took me back to his office and showed me an entire shelf of DOZENS of thick volumes of bound, typed manuscripts. These, he told me, were the UNPUBLISHED writings of von Dechend on astral mythology. I mention this because some of you ... who are interested in diving deeper into the whirlpool of the pre-history of precession and astral myth in general might be interested in going to M.I.T. and tracking down these manuscripts (Reiche died several years ago, but they must be somewhere)...." This description - at variance with those given by others - raises questions regarding accuracy. What is the exact number that 'DOZENS' means; what exactly is meant by thick volumes of bound, typed manuscripts;' what does UNPUBLISHED writings mean? There is no reason to believe the number could exceed 2 dozen; there is no reason to believe any exceeded 120 pages (or that double spacing was used, which would increase the number of pages); the claim for bound volumes seems odd for what is likely lecture notes but Reiche may have had his copies bound; and there is no reason to believe 'UNPUBLISHED writings' infers completed manuscripts, not lecture notes. As I discuss below, von Dechend's lecture notes were simply 'a mess' and not coherent. It would appear the intention of Harald Reiche to edit Hertha von Dechend's extensive German-language lecture notes, from lectures and seminars at Frankfurt University beginning 1970, was never fulfilled. He did make use of her unpublished material in at least one of his essays. It has been stated that Harald Reiche borrowed heavily from Hertha von Dechend. (It appears that von Dechend left her papers to Jerome Lettvin as executor. The library of Giorgio de Santillana also passed to Jerome Lettvin. It would be interesting to know the content and size of the library he inherited.) These lecture notes have, to my knowledge, never been translated or made generally available. Available - I think through the effort of Franz Krojer - is the brochure of her 1976/1977 seminar: Einführung in die Archaische Kosmologie. Vorlesungen im Wintersemester 1976/77 (Differenz-Verlag, München 2011). (Details: Hertha von Dechend, Einführung in die Archaische Kosmologie [Introduction to the Archaic Cosmology] Vorlesungen im Wintersemester 1976/77 [Lectures in Winter Semester 1976/77] Herausgegeben von Rainer Herbster [Edited by Rainer Herbster] Oder an: Differenz-Verlag Franz Krojer Postfach 90 03 15 81503 München.) Hertha von Dechend's unfinished book From the time of publication of Hamlet's Mill in 1969 (or perhaps even prior to its publication) it appears that Hertha von Dechend began collecting materials for a second book on the astro-mythological interpretation of the Pyramid Texts, the Amduat, and the Book of the Dead. (The ancient Egyptian Amduat or 'Book of What is in the Underworld' is the oldest of several funerary texts depicted on the walls of the pharaohs' tombs (i.e., in the tomb of Pharaoh Tuthmose (Tuthmosis) III) in the Valley of the Kings during the New Kingdom, on the burial chamber wall in the tomb of Tuthmose (Tuthmosis) II (near Thebes). (It has been claimed on Hastro-L (2012) that the manuscript is with the German publisher, Springer.) ) The Amduat was one of the first completely illustrated texts that defined what the Egyptian underworld was imagined to look like, and depicted the nightly journey of the sun god, Re through the twelve hours of the underworld.) Von Dechend believed that the astronomical knowledge and contributions of ancient Egypt had been under-estimated and up to her death was particularly interested in Erik Hornung's publication Das Amduat oder die Schrift des verborgenen Raumes (3 Band, 1963-67). However, it appears she only had 4 chapters completed (and ready for printing) by 1998. She procrastinated and never got around to completing the (final) 5th chapter (for MIT Press). (It appears she had an English title Archeoastronomy for the title of the draft manuscript. It also appears it was dated 1997.) It appears she gave a lot of time to mythological material relating to the constellation Sagittarius. She also intended to continue with her particular philological approach - this time focusing on what she believed were deficiencies and false interpretations in the translations of the Gilgamesh epic and the Rig Veda. Miscellaneous associates of Hertha von Dechend From George Mason University's History News Network (http://hnn.us/roundup/54.html): "William H. McNeill is Robert A. Milikan Distinguished Service Professor Emeritus of History at the University of Chicago. He taught at the university from 1947 until his retirement in 1987. McNeill is also a past president of the American Historical Association (1984-1985). McNeill has authored over thirty books ...." ... [McNeill writes (The Pursuit of Truth: A Historian's Memoir (2005)] "In 1955, Gustav von Grunebaum invited me to join him in a seminar at the University of Frankfurt, Germany. The seminar was conducted in German so I had to learn the language as never before, and during the three months I spent in Frankfurt a learned teaching assistant, Fraulein von Dechend guided me through pre-war German scholarship about pre-history and the history of steppe peoples." (McNeill is a Canadian-American historian. Life dates: 1917- .) Hertha von Dechend's written estate Hertha von Dechend's written estate comprises some 40 hand-manageable boxes of papers kept at the Johann Wolfgang Goethe-Universität. No real work of investigation and analysis has yet commenced with these papers. The support for Hamlet's Mill limited to MIT colleagues The only real support for the book Hamlet's Mill came from certain faculty members of MIT who were associated with Giorgio de Santillana. One supporter reviewer described the book as "A brilliant speculative inquiry into the origins of scientific thought ...." See the sympathetic (English-language) book reviews by Philip Morrison (who described the book as Polemic) in Scientific American, Volume 221, Number 5, November, 1969, Page 159 (at which time he was the book review editor); and by Harald Reiche in The Classical Journal, Volume 69, Number 1, October/November, 1973, Pages 81-83; and by Carroll Quigley (historian and polymath; Professor of History at MIT) in The Washington Sunday Star, 25 January, 1970 ("Delving Into Linguistic Archaeology."). Harald Reiche was one of Hertha von Dechend's few academic exponents. (Giorgio de Santillana and Harald Reiche had previously jointly-authored the book Aristotle and Science: A Critical Controversy which was published in 1959. It also appears that they worked at least on the draft of an essay titled: "A Memorandum on Greek Science.") Philip Morrison (who also wrote the Introduction to Astronomy of the Ancients edited by Kenneth Brecher and Michael Feirtag (1979), was Professor of Physics at MIT, and Harald Reiche was Professor of Classics and Philosophy at MIT. ("A Clue to the Atlantis Myth?" by Harald Reiche included in Astronomy of the Ancients, a volume of essays by various (mostly MIT) authors, on mythology and ancient astronomy, is an updated version of an article originally published by Reiche in Technology Review (an MIT periodical).) (See also the (English-language) book review by Arthur Meadows (University of Leicester) in Ambix, Volume XIX, 1972, Page 220. Further, see the sympathetic (Estonian-language) book review by Heino Eelsalu in Akadeemia [an Estonian journal], Number 6, 1995 Pages (Columns?) 1300-1301. Heino Eelsalu (Life dates: 1930-1998) was an astronomer.) A sympathetic book review by Bernard de Voto appeared in Saturday Review, Volume 53, 1970, Pages 102-105. After the retirement of Giorgio de Santillana his history of science classes at MIT were continued by Harald Reiche, a Professor of Classics and Philosophy at MIT, who was an avid supporter of Hamlet's Mill. In 1960 Harald Reiche was promoted to Associate Professor, Department of Humanities. He stayed at MIT and progressed through to Professor and then Professor Emeritus. (After his retirement it appears Giorgio de Santillana continued to lecture at MIT until he became seriously ill.) Regarding "A Clue to the Atlantis Myth?" by Harald Reiche, in Astronomy of the Ancients edited by Kenneth Brecher and Michael Feirtag (1979); see the earlier explanation in "Atlantis and Its Institutions." by Robert Brumbaugh in his book Plato's Mathematical Imagination (1977, Pages 47-59). Harald Reiche promoted Hamlet's Mill and its method. However, Harald Reiche's astronomical interpretation of the Atlantis myth is anything but convincing. Writing in 1994 the ex-Velikovskian catatastrophist Leroy Ellenberger stated: "Had it not been for the masterful hegemony of Harald A. T. Reiche, Classicist at M.I.T., who impressed me with the validity of the wisdom revealed in HAMLET'S MILL, I would not be a "player" today; but I refuse to acquiesce to the Saturnists' delusion now that I see what the REAL possibilities are. Milton Zysman deserves credit for organizing a conference in Toronto in 1990, where Victor Clube, as the keynote speaker, put fire and brimstone into his "puny meteor shower model" making it a viable alternative to "right-running" Velikovskians ...." Since 1990 Leroy Ellenberger has actively promoted the comet catastrophism (Taurid Complex) model of Clube and Napier (first proposed in the early 1980s), which is now named "coherent catastrophism." The astronomer David Morrison has noted that the Clube/Napier model of catastrophism has attracted many people who were once impressed by Velikovsky's model of catastrophism. The later efforts by the British mathematician Richard Thompson to support the ideas in Hamlet's Mill is set out in the book Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy (1996). The book is weird. At present I have not seen his later book The Cosmology of the Bhagavata Purana (2007). John Major Jenkins, a supporter of alternative history, is also a supporter of Hamlet's Mill, which he classes as archaeoastronomy. In attempting to support the book he writes (http://edj.net/mc2012/mill1.htm): "Although it [Hamlet's Mill] tottered on the edge of oblivion for years, it has reemerged as the fundamental inspiration for many progressive researchers who find the precession of the equinoxes lurking within ancient creation myths around the world." Biography of Harald Reiche Harald Reiche (people often mispronounced his name) was born in Germany in February,1922 and died in Boston (USA) in July, 1994, aged 72 years. He studied in Switzerland before he emigrated to the USA in 1938. He obtained his AB, AM, and PhD, all in Classics, from Harvard University. His PhD was received in 1955. He was Professor of Classics and Philosophy at MIT from 1955 to 1991. He was a specialist in Greek philosophy and the Church fathers. (See the short obituary notice in Klio, Volume 83, Number 2, 2001, Page 467; also, The Tech, Volume 114, Number 32, 1994, Page 6.) His focus was Greek philosophy and cosmology and myth. His research and publications were chiefly in the area of Greek philosophy and science and their interface with mythology. At the time of his death he was Professor Emeritus, School of Humanities and Social Science, History Faculty, MIT. The Harvard Alumni Bulletin, (Volume 54, Issue 2, 1951, Page 91) mentions: "Mr. and Mrs. Boris G. Bojenko of Paris and New York have announced the engagement of their daughter, Miss Irina Bojenko, to Harald AT Reiche, AM '44. Miss Bojenko [properly, Vojenko] is an alumna of Mauris Barres College [properly, Collège Maurice Barrès] in Paris." However, an obituary for Irene Reiche states they were, at the time of his death, married for 45 years. This gives a date of 1949. At least one biographical entry states they moved to Boston, and lived in Concord MA. Harald and Irene Reiche were Housemasters of Baker House, MIT, for 1980-1989. Victoria Reiche Gaar wrote: "Irene loved her years at Baker House and continued contact with many of the students throughout the years." After Harald Reiche's death Irene Reiche had moved to the Forum at Brookside in Louisville to be close to her daughter Victoria (Gaar). Irene Reiche, was born in France in 1927 and died in the USA on March 30, 2012, aged 85. The Reiche's are survived by 3 daughters, Elizabeth Reiche, Katharine Bigel and Victoria Gaar. There was a memorial service in Boston or Cambridge for Irene in early June 2012; her ashes are interred next to Harald's at Mount Auburn Cemetery in Cambridge. Some of his 'forgotten' books and articles include: Empedocles' Mixture, Eudoxan Astronomy and Aristotle's Connate (1960) (See the (English-language) book review by George Kerferd (University College, Swansea) in The Classical Review, (New Series), Volume 12, Issue 1, 1962, Pages 93-94); translator, 1953, Tragedy is not Enough by Karl Jaspers; and "Myth and Magic in Cosmological Polemics: Plato, Aristotle, Lucretius." in Rheinisches Museum, N.F., Band 114, 1971, Pages 296-321 (a study of astral myths in cosmological polemics). In the early 1960s Harald Reiche was one academic who advised Life magazine on the content for its new series of articles on ancient Greece, beginning with Volume 54, Number 1, January 4, 1963. Reiche was tending to make astral interpretations of material by the late 1940s. Reiche believed the earliest royal genealogies of, for example, Babylon, and Denmark, and the Greek kings of prehistory were astral and planetary in human pseudohistorical guise. Kings were in charge of their national calendars and so were 'influential' in celestial movements. He also located Atlantis high in the sky. He surveyed Greco-Roman traditions of decline and end - which he believed were based on the mythic patterns of the end of the world in prehistoric cultures and early ancient civilizations, involving notions of declining world ages - in "The Archaic Heritage: Myths of Decline and End in Antiquity." In: Visions of Apocalypse: End or Rebirth? edited by Saul Friedlander, Gerald Horton, Leo Marx, and Eugene Skolnikof (1985). Obituary, August 17, 1994 issue of MIT Tech Talk (Volume 39, Number 2).: "Professor Harald Reiche dies. August 17, 1994. Services were held at Mount Auburn Cemetery July 29 for Professor Emeritus of History Harald A.T.O. Reiche, 72, who died on July 25. A classical scholar, Professor Reiche was the author or co-author of several books and many articles on classical history and thought. He became particularly interested in Greek cosmology and astronomy and wrote and lecutred widely in that relatively unexplored field. Professor Reiche was born in Germany in 1922 and studied in Switzerland before emigrating to the United States where he was graduated from Phillips Academy. After service in the US Army during World War II, he received the AB degree in classics from Harvard in 1943. where he also received the AM (1944) and PhD (1955) degrees. He was appointed assistant professor of classics and philosophy at MIT in 1955 and helped to organize, design and teach the introductory humanities program. He also taught electives in Greek philosophy and language, ancient history and Roman political thought. He was promoted to associate professor in 1960 and to professor in 1966. He retired in 1991. In addition, from 1980-90, Professor Reiche and his wife were faculty residents in Baker House, where they hosted Sunday evening suppers and symposia famous on the campus for good food and stimulating conversation. Professor Reiche held a Carnegie Fellowship in humanities when he was first at MIT. Later he held a Guggenheim Fellowship in Athens and a Ford Foundation visiting professorship at the Technical University of Berlin. For many years he was also a lecturer in humanities and philosophy at Suffolk University. Professor Reiche is survived by his wife, Irene Vojenko Reiche of Boston; a son, Christopher Reiche of Arlington; three daughters, Elizabeth Riddle of Syracuse, NY, Katharine Bigel of Seattle, WA, and Victoria Reiche of Geneva, Switzerland, and three grandsons. Remembrances may be made to the Baker House Fund, c/o Treasurer's Office, 238 Main St., Suite 200, Cambridge 02142." Obituary in The Boston Globe, April 1, 2012: "REICHE, Irene B. Of Boston's Back Bay, passed away in Louisville, Kentucky, surrounded by her loving family, on March 30, 2012, age 85, after a long struggle with pancreatic cancer. Irene Reiche (born in France) moved to Boston as a young bride to Prof. Harald Reiche of MIT (deceased). They lived in Concord, MA and brought up 4 children; Christopher Reiche (deceased), Elizabeth (Tita) Reiche of White River Junction, VT, Victoria Gaar of Louisville, KY, and Katharine Bigel of Marina del Rey, CA. They moved to Cambridge, MA, and served as Housemasters of MIT's Baker House for 10 years. They retired to Back Bay where Irene lived until 2011. She was a loving grandmother to 4 grandsons and an active member of the First Church of Boston, Unitarian Universalist. Irene was a familiar figure walking her little white dog, "Mr. Bobby", in Boston Public Garden." Also, obituary published in The Boston Globe on 3/1/2009: "REICHE, Christopher G.T. Age 56 of Arlington, passed away peacefully at home after a valiant battle with cancer. Beloved husband of Lisa Deschenes, cherished son of Irene Reiche & devoted father to Derek. He was preceded in death by his father Harald Reiche. Also lovingly survived by his sisters Tita Reiche and her husband Bruce Riddle, Victoria and her husband Dr. Earl Gaar and Kate and her husband Jordan Bigel. Devoted uncle to nine nieces and nephews who adored their "Uncle Chris". A memorial service will be held March 7th at 5 pm First Parish Unitarian Universalist Church of Arlington, MA 02476. In lieu of flowers donations can be made in Chris' honor to the United States Tennis Association's Foundation USTA Serves www.foundationgiving.usta.com. Online guestbook at savilleandgrannan.com." Harald Reiche's position on ancient mythology Harald Reiche was one of the few academic supporters and exponents of the views of Hertha von Dechend. As example of Reiche's position on mythology see further the article summary: "Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers, Table of Contents, Volume 24, 2004, Article: The Language of Ancient Astronomy -A Clue to the Atlantis Myth? (21 pp) Harald A. T. Reiche 24-p 245. It is clear that Stone Age man lacked our mathematical systems and computational techniques and the knowledge of writing. It is equally clear, however, that he was able to raise Stonehenge and similar structures which involved precise measurements and celestial alignments. Reiche seeks to explain how they did it -what they used in lieu of technical language. He finds his answer in the vast storehouse of formulaic phrases (illustrated in the works of Homer). It is suggested that the form in which Neolithic and Bronze Age astronomers explained and transmitted knowledge was rhythmic (i.e., metric and versified speech), perhaps coupled with melody and elaborately styled pantomime. Reiche draws heavily on the work of Hertha von Dechend. He identifies 4 corollaries which define the method: 1) the mythological motif of successive world ages; 2) the mythological motif of monstrous deeds followed by "catastrophes," usually floods or fires or both; 3) the association of each world age with a planetary ruler (i.e., one of the naked-eye planets); and 4) the consensus, virtually universal among ancients that the "true" identity of a foreign deity can be deduced from its attributes. In the remainder of the article, the author reconsiders Plato's Atlantis myth in the light of the above corollaries. He identifies Plato's Atlantis myth as a piece of sacred cosmology deliberately expressed in pseudohistorical and pseudogeographic terms familiar from "mythic" language in its ancient capacity as a technical shorthand for astronomical systems". The impact of Hamlet's Mill on the teaching of Polynesian studies Hamlet's Mill had an impact on the teaching of Polynesian studies. The influential figure Rubellite Johnson incorporated belief in the themes of Hamlet's Mill into her courses and writings. From 1967 to 1993 she was on the faculty of the University of Hawaii-Manoa (Department of Indo-Pacific Languages) and helped establish its Hawaiian studies program. On retirement she became Professor Emeritius of Hawaiian Language and Literature and continued to publish. She researched the history of the Kumulipo, a sacred chant of Hawaiian mythology, and early newspapers in the Hawaiian language. See her course study book MO'OLELO HAWAI'I, WORLD OF THE HAWAIIANS (1993), page 116. In it she misidentifies the authors of Hamlet's Mill. On page 116, when discussing Hamlet's Mill, she mistakenly writes: "*Note: Hertha von Dechend was science historian at Harvard University; Giorgio Santillana (sic) was mathematic professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology." See also her book The Kumulipo Mind: A Global Heritage In The Polynesian Creation Myth (2000), page 179. In her book with John Mahelona, Na Inoa Hoku: A Catalogue of Hawaiian and Pacific Star Names (1975) the authors attempt to gather together the fragmentary record of Oceanic star knowledge. The main body of the book comprises 3 annotated lists of star names: Hawaiian, Pacific, and Indo-European. The authors are out of their depth when dealing with Egyptian, European, and Near Eastern star lore. In these areas they can be completely unreliable through uncritically accepting dated popular material. Part 2: The Basic Argument: A Critical Overview The basic argument is myth was the technical language of the archaic period 4000-3000 BCE, primarily for precessional phenomena. Based on her Polynesian studies, Hertha von Dechend interpreted early world-wide myths as having 3 rules: (1) animals are stars, (2) gods/goddesses are planets, and (3) topographic references are metaphors for locations - usually of the sun - on the celestial sphere. (See, for example Hamlet's Mill, Pages viii, and 62-65.) For Hamlet's Mill the Neolithic Period is both an age of mystery and an age of greatness during which formidable intellectual ability was demonstrated by a small group of people in the Near East by their establishment of mathematical calculus, careful observation of stellar movement leading to their discovery of precession, establishment of the equally divided 12-constellation zodiac, and development of a network of myths with common features. At the core of Hamlet's Mill is the claim that precession was not even an independently discovered and shared experience amongst cultures but discovered by a particular group of intellectuals ("Protopythagoreans") the Neolithic Near East and the discovery transmitted by them, coded in the 'technical language' of myth, over vast geological distances, before the establishment of writing. However, the primary centre of invention was not identified and proved by the authors and is yet to be proved by proponents of the ideas in the book. Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend believed they had found (and demonstrated) an underlying coherence behind hundreds of apparently chaotic sagas and myths. (Their focus was on cultural (i.e., mythological) material.) In order to do this they assume an historical relationship between world-wide myths. They make no attempt at all to demonstrate this assumption. They proposed a single astronomical origin in the ancient Near East for the entire global corpus of mythologies, including those of the Americas. Their basic method is to present comparative motifs between myths. This parallels/copies Eduard Stucken's method underlying his Astralmythen (5 parts) which was to define myths by their motifs, not by persons or types, and maintained that as it was motifs that were passed from people to people then only motifs could be used for the purposes of comparison. The method makes it easier to claim parallels and as such lacks rigour. The authors promote the concept of an archaic high culture in the Near East. "The main thesis of the book is that at a remote period [preceding the civilizations of Babylonia, Egypt, India, and China] a few men discovered the precession of the equinoxes (usually attributed to Hipparchus, ca. 120 B.C.) the obliquity of the ecliptic, and the shifting of the Celestial Pole. Four points of reference (equinoxes and solstices) form the frame or true ground of all myth. In particular, all Flood, world destruction, and succession type myths are seen as due to the shifting of this frame (as the vernal equinox enters a new zodiac sign precessing along the ecliptic). The authors further contend that this essentially scientific information was put into the preliterate code language (p. 344) of myth which then made its way about the earth apparently from "that 'Proto-Pythagorean' mint somewhere in the Fertile Crescent. (p. 311), ... completely unaffected by local beliefs and customs (p.345)." (Gerald Gresseth in Journal of American Folklore, Volume 84, Number 332, April/June, 1971, Pages 246-247.) (The foundation of the theory of Panbabylonism was the claim for an early date for scientific astronomy in Babylonia. This entailed knowledge of precession of the equinoxes and a system of astronomical/astrological 'World Ages.') This point goes to the heart of the credibility of Hamlet's Mill. It is assumed by the authors of Hamlet's Mill that this diffusion of coded astronomical knowledge successfully proceeded, literally world-wide in a standardised manner, without continual contact and interaction by the originators, to more distant cultures! Also, there were no problems with the precessional knowledge being understood by any of these ancient cultures world-wide, even when they lacked the observational experience or framework of thinking! There are no examples of confusion (misinterpretation) or rejection. Geometry and Algebra in Ancient Civilizations by Bartel van der Waerden (1948, 1983), and the critical book review "The Geometer and the Archaeoastronomers: On the Prehistoric Origins of Mathematics." by Wilbur Knorr (The British Journal for the History of Science, Volume 18, Number 2, July, 1985, Pages 197-212). Waerden (influenced by Abraham Seidenberg (1916-1988), Professor of Mathematics, University of California, Berkeley, retired 1987) speculates that the primary tradition arose within the Neolithic culture of Indo-European peoples who migrated into Central and Northern Europe in the 4th- and 3rd-millennium BCE. Specifically, a single Indo-European group, the so-called 'Beaker people' in the 3rd-millennium BCE, were the primal source for the geometric and ritual traditions, extending from Europe and the Near-East to India and China. In an article in ANTIQUITY (1997) Euan MacKie again argued for his long-standing belief that there existed in later Neolithic Britain and Ireland theocractic elites who possessed precise and sophisticated astronomical and mathematical knowledge. However, see the capable critique, "Cosmology, calendars and society in Neolithic Orkney: a rejoinder to Euan MacKie." by Clive Ruggles and Gordon Barclay (ANTIQUITY, Volume 74, Number 283, 2000, Pages 62-74); and "Will the data drive the model? A further response to Euan MacKie." by Gordon Barclay and Clive Ruggles (ANTIQUITY, Volume 76, Number 293, 2002, Pages 668-671). See also the recent (ultimately) speculative article: Kainzinger, Albert. (2011). "The mathematics in the structures of Stonehenge." (Archive for the History of Exact Science, Volume 65, January, Issue 1, Pages 67-97). [Note: Abstract: "The development of ancient civilizations and their achievements in sciences such as mathematics and astronomy are well researched for script-using civilizations. On the basis of oral tradition and mnemonic artifacts illiterate ancient civilizations were able to attain an adequate level of knowledge. The Neolithic and Bronze Age earthworks and circles are such mnemonic artifacts. Explanatory models are given for the shape of the stone formations and the ditch of Stonehenge reflecting the circular and specific non-circular shapes of these structures. The basic mathematical concepts are Pythagorean triangles, thus adopting the construction procedures of the Neolithic circular ditches of Central Europe in the fifth Millennium bc and later earthworks and stone circles in Britain and Brittany. This knowledge was extended with new elliptical concepts. Approximations for the values of p and the square root of 2 are encoded in the henge. All constructions were performed using a standardized "Babylonian" metrology that shows a remarkable consistency and comprehensible development over some 14 centuries."] As stated above: The influence of Higgins' concept of an ancient world-wide secret religious order sharing knowledge, on the similar idea expressed in Hamlet's Mill that a secret world-wide net of scholars existed and shared coded astronomical information should not be overlooked. According to de Santillana, throughout history the most advanced scientific knowledge is grasped only by a handful of people. My only comment is why didn't the channels of communication - whatever they supposedly were - also get used to carry other technical information such as metalworking. Why the ready diffusion of precession but not the diffusion of other more valuable and practical cultural items? Also, what was the rate and method of spread? "[I]t is claimed that the widespread symbol of the World Tree must be based on the 'world axis', while the two great circles of the equinoxes and the solstices are represented by the image of the World Mill. Yggdrasil, Samson's pillar, the tree up which Mani climbs to heaven in the Polynesian story - all are reflections of man's early knowledge of the starry sky, based on a close and systematic observation of the movements of the heavens. The idea of a succession of worlds, of the destruction of the earth by Flood or fire, and many stories of the fall of great kings and heroes, are based on the disappearance of the Pole Star and its replacement by another, due to the phenomenon known as the Precession of the Equinoxes (described pp. 59 ff.)." (Hilda Davidson in Folklore, Volume CXXXV, 1974, Pages 282-283.) Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend believed the astronomical content of myth preceded shamanism. Florence and Kenneth Wood, the authors of Homer's Secret Iliad (1999), mention that in the 1960s Edna Wood (who initially developed the idea of an astronomical code in the Iliad) received supportive letters from Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend at MIT, for her astronomical interpretation of the Iliad. Later (in 1996), Florence and Kenneth Wood mention that they visited Hertha von Dechend at the University of Frankfurt and received support for their ideas on Homeric astronomy from both Hertha von Dechend and Walter Saltzer. This enables some insight into what ideas and dates both de Santillana and von Dechend were prepared to accept. Though the book apparently lacks a wholly clear position on constellation origins (but the thrust is evident in Chapter 1 (see especially page 2) for implying a system of astronomy and constellations thousands of years prior to Homer) see page 244 regarding the suggestion for the origin of the constellations as early as the eighth millennium BCE. See also pages 207-208, 212, 217, & 220 for the reliance on a system of early zodiacal constellations stretching back to the eighth millennium BCE. According to de Santillana and von Dechend (1) the scientifically accurate rate of the precession was known in the late Neolithic Period (circa 4000 BCE), (2) the precession is the main source of all the major myths of the world (and these myths spread from a common source in the ancient Near East), and (3) these myths represent preliterate science (are a preliterate scientific and technical language) and deal with the precession and the cosmology of celestial dimensions. They believed that all so-called 'high cultures' had myths based on precession. Changeovers in zodiacal signs, i.e., shift of vernal equinox due to precession, are described in terms of catastrophes. The astronomical phenomenon of precession was conceived as causing the rise and cataclysmic fall of the ages of the world. De Santillana and von Dechend believed myth was the only technical language in archaic times. In seeking to uphold their explanation of the cryptic nature of the language of myths Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend claim that the language of myth was from the very beginning intended to be understood by initiates as compendia of cosmological teachings. "The main merit of this language is its ambiguity. Myth can be used as a vehicle for handing down solid knowledge independently from the degree of insight of the people who do the actual telling of the stories, fables, etc. In ancient times, moreover, it allowed members of the the archaic "brains trust" to "talk shop" unaffected by the presence of laymen: the danger of giving something away was practically nil. (Hamlet's Mill, 1969, Page 312)." (Amazingly, the need for secrecy is simply assumed and never explained. Also, the assumption of an 'international club' of people 'in the know' and storytellers who were not, but none-the-less ensured these particular myths dominated and never changed the essential structure of the supposedly coded information is simply assumed and never explained. Also, why the precessional knowledge set that was kept so secret was never again rediscovered in a repeat process by other persons, and again coded, is left in silence. The use of material from the literary period of China (by David Pankenier and Deborah Porter) as examples for verifying Hamlet's Mill remain late examples of astronomy being placed into myth (by only a few persons), and also culturally limited examples.) Part 3: Postings by Ernest McClain to Bibal Elucidating Hamlet's Mill Postings by Ernest McClain to Bibal (Bibal Study Group) are illuminating regarding Hamlet's Mill. Relevant snippets include: (1) (December 4, 2009): "... the book that follows is von Dechend's not his, and ignores quantification. He was dying at that time, and succeeded in ensuring a hearing for her." (2) (September 21, 2009): "... I never met this brief and brilliant essay of de Santillana from his paperback of 1983 because in 1972-3 I had to buy the hardcover first edition of 1969 to learn why my editors at MAIN CURRENTS IN MODERN THOUGHT were so excited about HAMLET'S MILL, in which he loaned his name to Hertha von Dechend to get her book into print. She shared none of his Pythagorean interest in quantification, but he recognized generously the significance of her recognition of pattern. (I was never aware of the paperback with his new essay.) I struggled to get my work in decent shape to present to him before he died in 1974, but failed to my own very great loss, because I thought him the only man then alive who could understand me properly (as I wanted to be). [That turned out not to be true, because Patrick Heelan, S.J., who edited my book with ease for publication in 1976] produced a brilliant summary of his own in "Music as basic metaphor and deep structure in Plato and in ancient cultures." (J. Social and Biological Structures, 1979-2, pp. 279-291.)] Amlodi's Mill at the bottom of the sea is Iceland's variation on the Holy Mountain which is the subject of my book. ..." (3) (December 20, 2007): "... Hamlet's MIll (sic) was published in '69 and I believe von Dechend's contributions were developed earlier before should could have met Palsson's work. [Icelandic scholar Einar Pálsson (1925-1996), whose 11-volume opus entitled Rætur íslenzkrar menningar (Roots of Icelandic Culture) published between 1969 and 1995 is based on the author's research over 5 decades into the imagery of Iceland's ancient poetic and saga literature. Most of his numerous speculations - 'landscape-cosmogram theory' apply to the medieval period - continue to be untested.] Her interests and de Santillana's were very different. ..." (4) (July 28, 2007): "... My only problem with von Dechend was her total disinterest in the quantitative. To her, music was "off the wall." There was nothing to talk about. ..." (4) (January 3, 2007): "... I do NOT believe that "acceptance of the Precession" as verified for the ancients is by any means "a done deal." Your statement is mainly an excuse to stop thinking about some difficult problems. As I see it, your intuition may prove correct, but the argument ignores a substantial amount of counter evidence. People explain the "unknown" in highly imaginative ways. I often inveigh against the conservatism of scholars, but it is instructive to follow their arguments closely when they make them. This argument merely jumps to a conclusion that allows mind to rest. That's how we help to choose our own fates. It's everybody's privilege. Precession is a very intricate idea. "Appearances" can be accepted without being explained. I see NO evidence for a doctrine of professional secrecy except from practitioners of a craft trying to protect their own income. The old scribes were very proud to be serving the crown. ..." (5) (January 1, 2007): "This woman [von Dechend] apparently never suspected how very late her "precessional" documentation is, and was incapable of handling quantification of any kind whatever. Santillana's introduction to her book is one of the finest pieces of "Pythagorean" exposition. Her book that follows is totally fraudulent (but innocent) scholarship that has intoxicated thousands (including some of my own friends) and greatly encouraged nonsensical theories. Her failure to understand her OWN material means that the stone circles and monuments that have surfaced in many places on the globe can NOT be explained by HER evidence, and so the question as to whether ANYBODY actually recognized "precession" before Hipparchus remains wide open, and needs to be studied anew with an open mind. I no longer have time to pursue that line of thought. I'm simply warning a few of you to trust nothing you have borrowed from her as "evidence." And while you are at it, you'd better ignore me also. She has misled many people since 1969, including some who are otherwise very intelligent. I rejected her work at first glance about 1973-74, but without recognizing where the Kalevala material came from. I missed the brilliance of Homeric allegory until reading his work again with Augusta as she was failing after 2001. She loved the old classics--and drew me more deeply into them as we read to each other. I'm still betting on Hipparchus--which of course leaves quite a lot to be explained by somebody else. The old monuments, after all, do "exist" in substantial numbers." (6) (December 26, 2006): "... I am NO fan of von Dechend whatever. However the question here is when does evidence of precession surface in the literature. So far it cannot be proved by circular artifacts, however subtle. For one thing, the ancients are tracking the moon for lunar Sabbaths in the middle of the month, and to them lunar motion was highly elusive, measurement could only be approximate, and perfect regularity in moon behavior was NEVER assumed until the synodic lunar year eventually was recognized (when is unclear). Thus in the third millennium when this literary description surfaces there was apparently no theory that would have been surprised by "precession." Temples might have been reconstructed as you describe quite without such a theory. Once Greek reasoning postulates "perfect circles forever," however, there is now an "idealist" assumption that CAN be questioned, and it was immediately in the centuries following Plato as his model was touched up repeatedly before Ptolemy arrives to make explicit Pythagorean MUSICAL assumptions. At which point he applies precession casually to the double octave of 9/8 wholetones (and unspecified semitones). His monochord of 120x3600=432,000 hypothetical units thus "cuts off" the accuracy of the 13th pitch class in Spiral 5ths, and leaves us (me) wondering why he didn't integrate Hipparchus value for the precession instead of accepting Plato's 60^4=12,960,000 cosmology. (If you think I've got this wrong please correct me.) There is no evidence whatever in the Osiris mythology as I read it for precession: the twin mountains of sunrise and sunset are taken for granted, and so is the underground return nightly through the Underworld from West to East (viz. there is NO "celestial rotation"--only the "rotation of the model itself."... I also fault von Dechend for her attacks on reputable scholarship--which has become rampant since (as it had been before). ..." (7) (September 11, 2006): "... Hamlet's Mill opens with de Santillana's exquisite presentation of Pythagorean structuralism, one of the finest ever composed, but he is generously lending his name to ensure a hearing for von Dechend's work which suppresses all mathematical structuralism. [Note: In the preface to the book, de Santillana claims he is barely deserving of senior authorship of the book. This also has to do with the fact that the material comprising the book is basically von Dechend's.] And she has inspired many people, two of them notably (in my experience). Her book became famous while I was working hard on Plato, and I refused to read it until far along, with a draft of Pythagorean Plato behind and some initial work on The Myth of Invariance. And at that point she had nothing to teach me, I thought. When I presented my work to her seminar at M.I.T. (and drafts of my papers) she had ZERO response to anything at all. Ten years later I sat for two long days of seminar discussions with her and 4 or 5 others, and her inability to make the slightest sense of anything I said or thought was perfect. ..." (8) (December 3, 2005): "... My "Marduk Universe" is the inspiration for von Dechend's "World Tree" with its "hour-glass drum" shape, but her own disinterest in "quantification" blinds her enthusiasts to the fact that de Santillana's brilliant opening essay on Pythagoreanism is merely a "come-on" for her quite "un-Pythagorean" fantasy that follows. That opening essay remains a great introduction to my own work, but Santillana never knew the work of Kilmer, Crocker and Brown that documents musicology to "Old Babylon" (2000-1600 BC)--a thousand years before Pythagoras (who I regard as pure fiction, that is, a convenient Greek gloss on what it inherited sans detail that is still only now coming to light). And von Dechend never learned to handle quantitative material. ... You and others who are curious about the failure of von Dechend and myself to reach any understanding at all (when we finally met a second time in the 90's--ten years after I presented my findings to her seminar at M.I.T) will have to judge us for yourselves. I found it impossible to have ANY coherent conversation with her. My own digging still continues and is far from finished; she had no concept of the mastery of "quantification" that PRECEEDED the events that attract her attention. ..." Bibel.net is The Berkeley Institute of Biblical Archaeology & Literature. McClain has carried out his investigations in relative obscurity. Part 4: The Basic Problem: A Critical Overview The treatment of mythology Hamlet's Mill has been misdescribed as a work in cultural anthropology. Much of its content is too vague for this. Despite its vagueness Hamlet's Mill is essentially a book on comparative mythology. Hertha von Dechend has been described as a specialist in comparative mythology. Hertha von Dechend has also been described as a pioneering archaeoastronomer, but this description is not justified. The Frobenius-Institut lists her as an ethnologist and archaeoastronomer. Such descriptions are rather incredible, and distortive. It is evident that the parallelomania of Panbabylonism underpins Hamlet's Mill. (Von Dechend has been mistakenly described (by Patrick Heelan) as a classicist.) Von Dechend spent her academic life reinterpreting ancient myths as a scientific code for astronomical events. She believed there was a world-wide cultural homogeneity in myths. In their book Hamlet's Mill Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend claim there is a profound coherence behind the many thousands of seemingly chaotic myths, legends, and stories. Ancient myths can be interpreted as a code language for the precessional cycle. However, the comparative method is inevitably full of uncertainties, and still not well developed. The German Protestant theologian Hans Schaer, following the ideas of Carl Jung, has set out that people, ancient and modern, have common patterns of thinking. This works against diffusionism as a necessary answer for cultural similarities. It has been stated that Hamlet's Mill is thematically similar to The Masks of God (4 volumes, 1957-1968) by Joseph Campbell. The Masks of God is also concerned with demonstrating the similarities between myths. The wide range of influences in addition to Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud, included the Dutch-born British biologist and ethologist Nikolaas Tinbergen (1907-1988) and the Austrian zoologist, ethologist, and ornithologist Konrad Lorenz (1903-1989), both credited as the founders of modern ethology. (Joseph Campbell often referred to physiological bases of mythological materials.) Whilst working on his first book Joseph Campbell had attended the lectures of Heinrich Zimmer (1890-1943), a German Indologist at Columbia University. Shortly after Zimmer died, Campbell devoted the next 12 years editing (almost coauthoring) Zimmer's lecture notes into 4 books: Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization (1946), The King and the Corpse (1948), Philosophies of India(1951), and The Art of Indian Asia (1955). Joseph Campbell was born in 1904, in New York City. After seeing Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show, at Madison Square Garden, as a child he developed an interest in Native American mythology and history. From 1921 to 1922 he attended Dartmouth College. He then transferred to Columbia University, where he earned a bachelor's degree in 1925 and a master's degree in medieval literature in 1927. During the next 2 years, he studied French and German medieval literature in Paris and Munich, as part of working towards a doctorate degree. He abandoned his plans to complete a PhD when informed that mythology was an unsuitable topic for his thesis. Campbell returned to the United States in the early 1930s and was unable to find immediate employment. He spent several years reading at a cabin in Woodstock, New York. In 1934, Joseph Campbell obtained a teaching position at Sarah Lawrence College in New York. He remained there until his retirement in 1972, teaching comparative mythology and literature. He died in 1987. "In The Hero with a Thousand Faces he described the monomyth (or the hero's journey), a narrative cycle that can be found embedded in all legends in whole or in part, and linked this to psychological roots. In his epic four-volume work The Masks of God, he explored the specific cultural variations of these commonalities from an anthropological perspective. The guiding idea behind these books followed Adolf Bastian's concepts of "elementary ideas" (elementargedanken) and "folk ideas" (volkergedanken), which also influenced Carl Jung's concept of "archetypes of the collective unconsciousness". The idea was that there are common elements ("elementary ideas") to all our mythologies which are wrapped up in local, cultural baggage ("folk ideas"). (Chris Batema: http://onlyagame.typepad.com/only_a_game/2009/06/what-did-joseph-campb ell-believe.html)" The Hero With a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell is built on the work of the 19th-century German Polymath Adolph Bastian (1826-1905) who was a key contributor to the establishment of the modern disciplines of ethnology and anthropolgy. Bastian's theory of the Elementargedanke, led to Carl Jung's development of the theory of archetypes, and in turn this influenced the work of the Jungian comparative mythologist Joseph Campbell. Adolf Bastian first proposed the idea that world-wide myths appear to embody the same "elementary ideas" (= monomyth)." The Swiss occultist and mystic Carl Jung (1875-1961) adopted this theory and named these elementary ideas "archetypes." Jung held that these "archetypes" were the building blocks not only of the unconscious mind, but also what he termed the "collective unconscious." Jung believed that every person in the world is born with identical basic subconscious modes of constructing stories (story structure is part of a "hard-wired" mental "operating system"). Jung's developed his theory of archetypes with the purpose of using it as a tool to find meaning in the dreams and visions of mentally ill persons. Joseph Campbell used Jung's theory of archetypes to identify what he believed were common underlying structures underpinning all religions and myths across time and space. Interestingly, the ultimate source for the contents of Campbell's chapter "Circumpolar Cults of the Master Bear" (Pages 147-151) in his The Way of Animal Powers: Historical Atlas of World Mythology. Volume 1 (1983) may have been Geographische Kulturkunde by Leo Frobenius (1904). Also, Hamlet's Mill interprets sexual and other oddities by the gods/goddesses (such as sexual mutilation and cannibalism) as astronomical. As example: "... the emasculation of Ouranos stands for establishing the obliquity of the ecliptic: the beginning of measurable time. (Page 135)" But see the totally different discussion and interpretation of odd sexual and other behaviour by god/goddesses by Carolina López-Ruiz in her book When the Gods Were Born (2010, Chapter 4: Orphic and Phoenician Theogonies). She discusses such behaviour within the framework of a cosmic scheme of power. In their introduction to Hamlet's Mill the authors state they are well aware of modern interpretations of myth and folklore but they find them shallow and lacking insight: "...the experts now are benighted by the current folk fantasy, which is the belief that they are beyond all this - critics without nonsense and extremely wise." The authors instead prefer to rely on the work of "meticulous scholars such as Ideler, Lepsius, Chwolson, Boll and, to go farther back, of Athanasius Kircher and Petavius." Throughout the book the authors give reasons for preferring the work of older scholars (and the early mythologists themselves) as the proper way to interpret myth. The basic procedure of de Santillana and von Dechend copies from (mostly) from the amateur German philologist Edward Stucken (Astralmythen, 5 Parts, 1896-1907) and also the German assyriologist Peter Jensen (Das Gilgamesch-Epos in der Weltliteratur, 2 Volumes, 1906-1928). They compare motifs. Stucken's method was to identify motifs within Mesopotamian stories and then identify correspondences. Stucken based his theory on certain similar features of narratives/myths. Whilst he collected a huge number of parallels from all over the world they largely remain unconvincing. (Stucken was criticised for knowing no restraint.) As example, Stucken was unconcerned when matching motifs whether certain features of a historical tale were analogous to certain features of a mythical story. De Santillana and von Dechend claim analogical features. They also looked for similarities in iconography. In his Blog article, "Hamlet's Mill: Precession or Solar Symbol." (4/12/2012), Jason Colavito states: "Almost all modern alternative claims derive from the work of Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend in Hamlet's Mill (1969), which argued that "measures and counting," specifically as related to astrology, were "the frame on which the rich texture of real myth was to grow." That phrase--real myth--gave the authors license to selectively choose which myths were "real" based on how closely they conformed to an imagined prehistoric knowledge of precession." Numerous examples discussed in Hamlet's Mill actually date to the Medieval period, not earlier e.g., (1) the figures Hamlet, Kullervo, and Amlodhi, (2) Firdausi's epic Persian poem Shahmana, (3) the depiction of 'The Churning of the Milky Way' at Angkor Wat, and (4) the architectural depiction of the '7 planetary spheres' at Borobudur temple. Also, the Pythagoreans and Platonic ideas and myths have a pivotal role in their interpretations. No attempt is made to create a chronology and no attempt is made to identify the specific cultures that have common motifs. Broadly, in the ancient world, from Hesiod (Greek poet, circa 8th-century BCE) to St Paul (Roman citizen, 1st-century CE, a convert from Judaism to Christianity), the idea of things 'running down' ('entropy') is a dominant theme in ancient mythology. Mythology as astronomical language Hamlet's Mill is an amazing exhibition of academic narrow-mindedness, unrestrained speculation, and lack of expert knowledge, on the part of its authors. Within the framework of the book recent scholarship is ignored or dismissed. Modern anthropological research is mostly ignored (and indeed distrusted). Trust is given to older authorities - such a Rydberg and his fantasies concerning a 'world-mill' - even when genuine modern scholarship has shown them to be out of date and misleading. The 'monomyth theory' - traceable all the way back to Max Müller - is revived, despite its absurdity. The authors of Hamlet's Mill associate all myth with astronomy. In Hamlet's Mill myth is promoted as the early language of science - not a form of fiction opposed to science. Their claim that all myths are strictly astronomical and all trace back to a single unidentified Neolithic civilization, located somewhere in the Near East, is unsustainable. Hamlet's Mill is far from being a demonstration of how the language of ancient stories can be simultaneously poetic and scientifically/technically precise/accurate. It is certainly a demonstration of how obscurantism can win wide and uncritical admiration. One supporter of Hamlet's Mill writes that ancient myths encode a vast and complex body of accurate astronomical information (scientific data of the highest level and greatest precision)! Another supporter of Hamlet's Mill writes: "An exhaustive look at the astronomical themes and terminology in myths worldwide." If the same system of astronomical ideas, expressed in the same symbolic language, existed across the pre-literate geographic/cultural blocks comprising Near East, Mediterranean, Northern Europe, Orient, Oceania, and Mesoamerica - as claimed by the author's of Hamlet's Mill - then what were the processes enabling this astonishing diffusion of coded astronomical ideas across cultures, oceans, and continents? Why is there a lack of other 'traceable' types of information? If there is a coded precessional monomyth widely distributed over the globe then: (1) how did this occur? (2) why did this occur? How was this new type of myth unfailingly introduced across the globe with consistency retained? Between the end of the Neolithic period and the time of the pre-Socratic Greek philosophers there was evidently a loss of understanding (world-wide) of the supposed astronomical content of myth. It has been incorrectly suggested by one person that von Dechend brings Jungianism into the book. Hamlet's Mill is an extension of earlier attempts to establish an astronomical interpretation of mythology. Their treatment of major myths as astronomical systems having a word-wide basis mimics the German star-myth school of the late 19th-century and early 20th-century. Advanced astronomical information had been gathered before the invention of writing and transmitted through myth (an archaic technical language). Specifically, precession was the fundamental focus of archaic astronomy. Astronomical interpretations of mythology (often incorporating precession as the "key") have been extensively promoted in numerous books published between circa 1880 and 1930. Historically, proponents of a scheme of astronomical mythology (nearly always based on an equally divided 12-constellation zodiac) have ceaselessly demonstrated that it is possible to incorporate a diverse and differing range of astronomical data into their interpretations. Almost all the authors interpret the same mythology or epics with different astronomical data i.e., identify different astronomical phenomenon. Simply, an "astro-mythic" scheme can bear several several interpretations. (It is also interesting to see the apparently Jungian "astro-mythic" slant given to Hebrew mythology by Tom Chetwynd in his The Age of Myth (1991).) Such multitude of divergence indicates that the methodology is flawed or that the interpretations are forced. In a nutshell: The problem is no "astronomical key" has been identified - as is evidenced by the diverse astronomical methods of interpretation. This facilitates the criticism that often the method(s) of "astro-mythic" interpretation is perhaps not a method after all. A reasonable analogy would perhaps be the elaborate "Bacon is Shakespeare" ciphers that have been "discovered". What stands out is the fact that the coding systems and underlying identification messages are never the same. The 2 volumes by Ignatius Donnelly titled The Great Cryptogram (1888) are a prime example. John Nicolson's book No Ciphers in Shakespeare (1888) showed that the cipher scheme "discovered" by Ignatius Donnelly can be used to produce any required result. Likewise, elements within a single scheme of astronomical mythology can produce several variant interpretations. The problem is illustrated by two "recent" publications using the same tale in the context of Hamlet's Mill (1969). They are Heavens Unearthed in Nursery Rhymes and Fairy Tales by Matt Kane (1999) and Imaginary Landscapes: Making Worlds of Myth and Science by William Thompson (1989). Both authors refer to Hamlet's Mill: An Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time. In "Chapter 5: Rumpelstiltskin" of Kane's book he interprets the tale as a lunar myth. In "Chapter 1: Rapunzel: Cosmology Lost" of Thompson's book he interprets the tale as involving the sun and moon and the planetary motion of Mercury, Venus and Mars. (William Thompson was a colleague of Hertha von Dechend when she was at MIT. Both were in the Department of Humanities. He was at MIT from 1965 to 1968; Associate Professor of Humanities (i.e., Associate Professor of Literature) from 1966. At his current website (2010) he states that Hertha von Dechend discussed her ideas on ancient mythology and astronomy with him at their lunches in the student cafeteria. However, in a slide set (Journeys of the Goddess) William Thompson states: "My reading of myth owes everything to my faculty lunchtime discussions with Giorgio di (sic) Santillana and Hertha von Dechend at MIT in the 1960s." The version by John Ebert in his book Twilight of the Clockwork God 1999) is distortive. It is set out by William Thompson that von Dechend's ideas helped him to develop one level of his multi-layered reading of the Rapunzel story.) Interestingly, William Thompson has adopted the technique of using zodiacal timing (= 'zodiacal age') to frame historical research. A successful theory is such because it can best fit all the known facts. Also, within each of the sciences a single controlling theory tends to dominate. Two opposing theories which can use similar starting points but arrive at different explanative outcomes to fit the facts need to be given further investigation before one is accepted (with or without modification) or neither is accepted. It is also really up to the proponents of an idea to reasonably establish their case - including answering all reasonable criticisms raised. Note: Thompson (The Time Falling bodies Take to Light, Pages 107-110) claims that a 'primitive' zodiac is depicted within the Lascaux cave paintings. To boldly claim, as Matt Kane does, that Snow White, Rumpelstiltskin, and other fairy tale persons are actually mnemonic tales of celestial cycles dating back to the Ice Age, is simply fantasy. The earliest known mention of Rumplestiltskin occurs in Johann Fischart's Geschichtklitterung, or Gargantua of 1577 (a loose adaptation of Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel) which refers to an "amusement" for children named "Rumpele stilt or the Poppart". The content of the speculations of the above-mentioned authors, however, apart from the premises which enable them, are essentially in conflict. Relative harmony would be a better indicator of the reliability of the "astro-mythic" method. What perhaps would also be more credible is an astronomical interpretation that did not incorporate a scheme of ancient zodiacal constellations to prop the "precession in mythology" approach. The nature of the claims for precessional mythology (invariably based on a conjectured ancient 12-constellation zodiac of 12 equal divisions) require that any difficult facts arising from such need to be critically discussed and myopic approaches avoided. We need to separate conviction from science and to ensure we satisfactorily do such we should not disable our skepticism. Both Matt Kane and William Thompson were not informed regarding modern research into the origin and nature of fairy tales. Whether nursery rhymes and fairy tales are some surviving remnant of an ancient oral tradition (especially conveying some form of scientific/astronomical wisdom) has now become even more controversial. There is a strong case that both are relatively modern and have their roots in the medieval period. (Interestingly, so-called fairy tales most often have little to do with fairies). See especially: Fairy Tales: A New History by Ruth Bottigheimer (2009). From the Back Cover: "Where did Cinderella come from? Puss in Boots? Rapunzel? The origins of fairy tales are looked at in a new way in these highly engaging pages. Conventional wisdom holds that fairy tales originated in the oral traditions of peasants and were recorded for posterity by the Brothers Grimm during the nineteenth century. Ruth B. Bottigheimer overturns this view in a lively account of the origins of these well-loved stories. Charles Perrault created Cinderella and her fairy godmother, but no countrywoman whispered this tale into Perrault's ear. Instead, his Cinderella appeared only after he had edited it from the book of often amoral tales published by Giambattista Basile in Naples. Distinguishing fairy tales from folktales and showing the influence of the medieval romance on them, Bottigheimer documents how fairy tales originated as urban writing for urban readers and listeners. Working backward from the Grimms to the earliest known sixteenth-century fairy tales of the Italian Renaissance, Bottigheimer argues for a book-based history of fairy tales. The first new approach to fairy tale history in decades, this book answers questions about where fairy tales came from and how they spread, illuminating a narrative process long veiled by surmise and assumption." Author information also from the back cover: Ruth Bottigheimer [2009] teaches European fairy tales and British children's literature at Stony Brook University, State University of New York. She is the author of several books, including Fairy Godfather: Straparola, Venice, and the Fairy Tale Tradition. Author information from Wikipedia: "Ruth B. Bottigheimer is a literary scholar, folklorist, and author. She is currently an adjunct professor in the department of Comparative Literature and Cultural Studies at Stony Brook University, State University of New York where she specializes and teaches courses in European fairy tales and British children's literature. See the book review at http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf.php?id=32534 by Daniela Richter (Central Michigan University). See also: Fairy-Tale Science: Monstrous Generation in the Tales of Straparola and Basile by Suzanne Magnanini (2008). See also the critical book review: "Fairy Tales: A New History (review)" by Cristina Bacchilega (Children's Literature Association Quarterly, Volume 35, Number 4, Winter, 2010, Pages 468-471). According to Bill Lauritzen (The Invention of God: The Origins of Religious and Scientific Thought, 2007), much of Hamlet's Mill can be interpreted as describing volcanic and geological processes. Jarita Holbrook, guest post Cosmos Diary blog, June 1, 2012 writes: "The idea of myths and legends possibly containing scientific truths about the sky is not new. Studies trying to tease out astronomy facts from the narrative of myths have been fraught with methodological errors center around the question of `what myths are the best candidates for having astronomy content?' Books have been written in answer to this question that offer guidelines for identifying celestial motifs in myths across cultures. My 2008 analysis of African creation myths focused on identifying common cosmological themes that appear in more than one ethnic group. For that study, the myths selected were chosen from published sources--which can present problems that should be taken into consideration. For example, oftentimes the person recording the myth has: a) combined several versions of the myth into one version for simplicity, and b) changed the language used in the myth in order for it to read better for academic audiences. It is rare to impossible to find original transcriptions of African creation myths." (Jarita Holbrook is a researcher at UCLA (2012) and among the first African American women to earn a doctorate in astrophysics in the USA.) Andrew Dalby in his book Rediscovering Homer (2006, Page 191) writes (regarding epic poem transmission): "Parry and his followers showed, then, that singers learn from their predecessors the poetic language, the system of formulas, the traditional stories and characters. What they do not learn from each other is the precise wording of a story or poem. Whole poems are not transmitted from one poet to another." Applied to the concept of hyper-diffusion of precessional mythology from Mesopotamia the inevitable variations in accuracy from an original version poses problems of a garbled code. Modern mythologists overlooked in Hamlet's Mill The 3 giants whose works remain the most important theoretical contributions to the study of myth are: (1) Georges Dumézil (1898-1986), Claude Lévi-Strauss (1908-2009), and Mircea Eliade (1907-1986). Recently the veracity of some of the work of Eliade has been questioned. Part 5: The Eight Key Claims: A Critique The claim for an archaic (astronomical) science In Hamlet's Mill Giorgio de Santillana claims that a "great worldwide archaic construction" of knowledge was in existence long before the Greeks were an established civilization, and that remnants of this knowledge survive in misunderstood myths and fairy tales. (Old mythological lore is claimed to be riddled with coded references to precession.) Basically, Hamlet's Mill argues for a pre-literate world civilisation. It shared an international pre-literate code language of numbers, motions, and measures. However, the coherence the authors argue exist behind diverse myths is not evident in their arguments. According to de Santillana the Pythagorean tradition was a expression of this ancient "gnosis," repeated in the language of archaic myth, and from this source we have much of the foundation of modern civilization (including the beginnings of mathematics and the doctrine that the world is formed according to number). According to de Santillana Plato could "speak the language of archaic myth" and built the first modern philosophy on this foundation. De Santillana believed that behind Plato's myths was his knowledge of the 'ancient system' and that Plato used this language in his allegories - "without divulging their precise meaning: whoever was entitled to the knowledge of the proper terminology would understand him." Needless to say, this is all simply de Santillana's speculations. De Santillana has also pointed out that Plato and his school moved away from the more scientific attitude of the earlier Ionian scientists and replaced their physics by an astro-theological cosmos which discouraged experimenting. In Hamlet's Mill, de Santillana and von Dechend adhere to the same fallacy which effectively undermined Panbabylonism - namely, an uncritical belief in the existence of a sophisticated knowledge of astronomy in antiquity. Mèlanges de l'Université Saint-Joseph, Volume 61, 2008, Page 26: "This group [of Panbabylonists], among them [Hugo] Winckler, [Alfred] Jeremias, [Peter] Jensen, and [Ernest] Weidner, following the idea first promulgated by the amateur comparative mythographer [Eduard] Stucken, claimed that the source of a tendency to personify and allegorize the movements of the heavenly bodies as mythic projections of the activities of deities was to be found in Mesopotamia, from where the phenomenon diffused throughout the ancient world as astral mythology and astral religions." Von Dechend, the main force behind Hamlet's Mill, held many similar ideas to the Panbabylonists, made frequent reference to their literature, but avoided making any direct reference to Panbabylonianism. Exactly which Neolithic peoples had this sophisticated astronomical knowledge is not explained nor is the manner of its world-wide diffusion. Circa 5000 BCE humankind must have been few in number, scattered, and nomadic. Also, peoples living in the American continent have been (or mostly been) separated physically from the Eurasian continent for at least 10,000 years. Rather curiously, the conjectured ancient astronomers - though able to deal with precession - did not recognise the proper motions of stars. The claim for Neolithic discovery of precession Hamlet's Mill sets out that precession was the single greatest preoccupation of all ancient cultures. However, it appears there was no 'plain language' discussion of it. Also, the date of its supposed early discovery is left vague in Hamlet's Mill. The authors even imply that it was perhaps discovered earlier than the Neolithic Period. Their brief remarks on the issue appear on page 340 of Hamlet's Mill (1969). The 4000 BCE date is given importance - and identified as the latest possible date for the realization of precession - by the authors because it was, in their view, the ending of the Golden Age (and they claim that this gave rise to the various flood myths). They assert their belief that the actual date for the discovery of precession was much earlier, perhaps by many millennia. "Its beginning has already been placed in the Neolithic, without setting limits in the past, let prehistoric archeologists decide. (Hamlet's Mill, Page 340)." The authors also claim in footnote 4 on the same page: "These people could compute backward as well as forward." However, the authors set out sufficiently enough that when the whole scheme started "Time Zero" was circa 5000 BCE and relates to the junction of the Galaxy and (the plane of the) ecliptic when the vernal equinoctial sun was in (and leaving) Gemini the Twins. Also, the area of the sky was occupied by both the Milky Way and the bright stars of the belt of Orion. Thomas McEvilley, a classical philologist and a disciple of Hamlet's Mill, following the speculations of its authors, would have us believe the discovery of precession in the Neolithic Period was not too difficult. It does not require having a grandfather who has a tree and passes down stories about his lifetime observation of the night sky. For McEvilley (The Shape of Ancient Thought (2002), Neolithic astronomers were aware of the slippage along the ecliptic of the equinoctial sunrise. This was the 'trigger' for research leading to the discovery of the precession of the equinoxes. Knowledge of the cycle of precession became part of their knowledge of invariances in nature that were their 'pivot points' to work from in their constructions of reality. McEvilley also sets out that "ancient traditions" involved both knowledge and channels of communication that were kept rigorously secret. Implied in this is the assumption that between the supposed consolidation of knowledge of precession in the Neolithic Period by circa 4000 BCE, and its discovery by Hipparchus of Rhodes (flourished 2nd-century BCE), it was never rediscovered by persons not heirs to the supposed world-wide system of 'secret knowledge' known only to a world-wide close/restricted intellectual elite. Also, it was apparently separated from, or kept from, persons involved in calendar construction; regardless that accurate calendar construction was one of the most important issues in the ancient world. McEvillery does, however, give an account of of McClain's acoustic theory of the basis of mythology (The Shape of Ancient Thought (2002, Pages 81-82)) and acknowledge that sexagesimal/precessional numbers can be fitted to acoustical arithmetic as to precessional arithmetic. He views McClain's argument as, in effect, an adaptation of the Hamlet's Mill argument to another context. More correctly McClain likely has the correct context. Two addition difficulties for the claim in Hamlet's Mill that the 'real' meaning of ancient myths was known only to the intellectual elite, or priesthood, of prehistoric human society are raised by Roy Willis and Patrick Curry in their book, Astrology, Science and Culture (2004, Pages 45-46): "There are two principal objections to this one-dimensional 'reading' of mythical language. The first is that all we know of hunter-gathering peoples from first-hand modern studies and ancient story suggests that out prehistoric ancestors lived in nomadic, socially unstratified and normatively egalitarian groups until the later stages of the Neolithic and the so-called Bronze Age. In these social circumstances, it would be surprising to find a closed elite possessing 'secret' knowledge, as posited by the authors of Hamlet's Mill. The second objection to their theory is provided by the monumental work of Lévi-Strauss and his exhaustive demonstration of the complex transformations of mythical narrative across cultures and continents, together with the work of his disciples and emulators in Africa and Asia. To suppose that this kaleidoscopic material conveys a stable, precise mapping of celestial events that could be seen as congruent with the ordered, mechanical universe of Newtonian astronomy seems less than plausible." There is little evidence of developed social stratification in most Neolithic societies. Most Neolithic societies were relatively simple and egalitarian. During most of the Neolithic people lived in small tribes/clans of 150-2000 members that were composed of multiple bands or lineages. Social stratification is largely associated with the later Bronze Age. The proponents of ancient (pre-Hipparchan/Neolithic) knowledge of precession are basically reflecting the ideas of Panbabylonism. No proof has been found for knowledge of precession antedating Hipparchus. No firm proof has been found for Western constellations existing prior to circa 2000 BCE. Also, the zodiac originated in Babylonia as late as circa 5th-century BCE. The claim for precession in the Erra-epic The authors of Hamlet's Mill hold that the clearest statement of precession exists in the Erra-Epic (also known as the Erra and Ishum Epic). (See: Hamlet's Mill by Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend (1969) Pages 325.) The authors write: "... it is necessary to leave Era's somber prophecy unfulfilled, relating as it does to a coming world age: "Open the way, I will take the road, The days are ended, the fixed time is past." But with it comes the clearest statement ever uttered by men or gods concerning the Precession. Says Marduk: When I stood up from my seat and let the flood break in, then the judgement of Earth and Heaven went out of joint ... The gods, which trembled, the stars of heaven - their position changed, and I did not bring them back." Amazingly, the authors fail to to engage in any developed discussion, scholarly or otherwise, of this section of the text. The source of the "Marduk quote" in Hamlet's Mill is the late version of the Erra-Epic, generally believed by scholars to have been written circa the eighth-century BCE, and is likely derived from (the German-language) book Das Era-Epos by Felix Gössmann (1956). (The author of the Erra-Epic, Kabti-ilani-Marduk of the Dabibi-family, claimed that the work was revealed to him in a dream.) Which author of Hamlet's Mill made the English-language translation is not known. Unfortunately Gössmann's edition of the Erra-epic has problems due to the fact he did not have access to all suitable material. In the Erra-Epic there is a scenario involving disorder affecting the earth and heavens when Marduk temporarily leaves his throne. The context is an apocalyptic type scenario similar to the Biblical book Apocalypse of John (i.e., Book of Revelation). (See the discussion in Cosmos, Chaos and the World to Come by Norman Cohn (1993). Erra is an Akkadian warrior god. The result of Erra's assault is that the world is plunged into darkness and as a result Marduk is displaced from his throne and forced to descend to the underworld. Erra temporarily seizes control of Babylon from Marduk during the latter's temporary absence. As the phenomena of precession is completely unconnected with any occurrence of celestial darkness this type of imagery can hardly be descriptive of precession. The theme of the chosen imagery of the Erra-Epic is believed to refer to a disastrous military event that occurred to the city of Babylon in the "dark age" at the beginning of the first millennium BCE. The central theme of the poem is concerned with the assault by Erra on the kingdom of Marduk. Babylon was the residence of the god Marduk and the centre of the universe. The disaster was interpreted in religious terms as the temporary replacement of Marduk by Erra. It is possible the poem is descriptive of a raid by the semi-nomadic Sutian people on the city of Babylon. The Sutians (who lived along the Euphrates River) periodically raided Mesopotamian cities. It has also been proposed that the epic was composed following the recovery of the statue of Marduk from Susa by Nebuchadnezzar 1 after its removal by the Elamite king Kutir-Nahhunte. (Statue-napping was a significant issue in ancient Mesopotamia.) This event is dated to the 12th-century BCE. Circa 1160 BCE King Kutir-Nahhunte invaded Mesopotamia and took the city of Babylon. Included amongst the items he brought back from Babylon was the Code of Hammurapi. Circa 1120 BCE King Nebuchadnezzar 1 conquered Elam. Erra is the god of war and pestilence (and ultimately fire). For an authoritative discussion that the Erra poem (a narrative poem) is not myth; it is mythologised history, see the paper "The Epic of Gilgamesh: Thoughts on Genre and Meaning." by the assyriologist A. R. George. The actual overall point being made by the story is the equilibrium of the physical and moral world (both equally divine appointments) depend on the presence of the god Marduk. For a discussion of some content of the epic of Erra and Isum (its theme of alternating destruction through flood and fire) as a possible mythological antecedent to the later astronomical theory of the 'Great Year' see: "A Possible Babylonian Precursor to the Theory of ecyprosis." by Marinus van der Sluijs (Culture and Cosmos, Volume 9, Number 2, Autumn/Winter, 2005, Pages 1-19). The Babylonians and the Greeks conceived the doctrine of a 'Great Year;' the doctrine of recurrent cosmic conflagrations. It was the time after which the planets would realign themselves in identical positions in the sky. This was the period of the cosmos from creation to destruction. The 'Great Year' of the Classical world arose from the mythical conception of a cosmic periodicity the origin of which is ultimately traceable to Babylonia. The Babylonians developed the notion of a repetitive cosmic 'Great Year;' a that belief immense cycles of time culminated in huge catastrophes and recurrence of creation. Berossos the Babylonian (residing on the Greek island of Cos) wrote of a 'cosmic year' of 432,000 years. Identifying Babylonian sources before Berossos is problematic. Despite the common opinion that the idea of a 'Great Year' originated in Babylonian circles, there is no clear and unambiguous evidence of a Babylonian expectation of an end of the world in any form before Berossus. However, the epic of Erra and Isum, when carefully evaluated, seems to provide this. Berossos writes the work of creating the world carried within its structure repetitively recurring celestial cycles of destruction and recurrence. (Perpetual celestial cycles involving immense cycles of time and recurrent catastrophes involving huge floods and conflagrations.) The Babylonian 'Great Year' was about all the planets gathering within one particular zodiacal sign. (More the simultaneous, periodic return of all the planets to the same point of the zodiac.) There were later variations in what was meant by the 'Great Year' but basically it is linked to a great cycle involving the sun, moon, planets, stars, and seasons returning to their original arrangement i.e., to the same sign they originally set out from when created. One cycle of a 'Great Year' would last until the planets aligned in their original position or zodiac sign in the cosmos. The idea of a 'Great Year' encompassed the doctrine of a Flood and Ekpyrosis. Aristotle stated that in the winter of this year a flood (kataklysmos) takes place, in the summer a conflagration (destruction by fire) (ekpyrosis). The Stoics were certainly interested in the 'Great Year' concept. It is thought that the Babylonian 'Great Year' was adopted by the Stoics. The Greek formulation of the 'Great Year' involved recurrent cataclysms of flood and fire. "The early Stoic version of the eternal recurrence is that a great conflagration (ekpurôsis) marks a stage in the cycle of the reconstitution of the cosmos (apokatastasis). One cycle, a Great Year (SVF, 2.599), would last until the planets align in their original position or zodiac sign in the cosmos (SVF, 2.625). Each age would end in Fire, the purest of elements and the irreducible cosmic substance, and would be followed by a restoration of all things. ("Hellenistic Astrology." by Marilynn Lawrence (Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy))" (Note: SVF = Stoicorum veterum fragmenta, ed. J. von Arnim (Leipzig: Teubner, 1903.) In the Classical world it was Plato (writing before Berossos' account) who first made a clear statement of the 'Great Year' which he called the 'Perfect Year.' Plato defined the 'Perfect Year' as a period at the end of which the fixed stars and planets return to the point from which they started their revolution. Aristotle called the same period the 'Greatest Year.' When I see 36,000 in Mesopotamian records my spontaneous association is with the 'Great Year' of planetary conjunctions - which was not estimated with reference to precession. Plato's 36,000 year length is linked to the idea of powerful conjunctions and is not linked to the idea of precession (or to the solstices and equinoxes). In later Greek and Latin texts this cosmic period is called the 'Great Year.' Precession is not necessarily involved. The 'Great Year' and the 'precessional year' are entirely different in concept but get mixed. In some of the older astro-mythology books it is common to see the cycle of precession referred to as the 'Great Year' or 'Platonic Year' (and also as the 'precessional year of Hipparchus'). Amongst the Greeks the estimated length of the 'Great Year' varied. The duration of the 'Great Year' was not reliant on exact astronomy - ideas of the time of a 'Great Year' varied between very long cycles and (in later Greek and Latin writers) very short cycles. Cicero estimated 11,460 year for the Great Year whilst Macrobius estimated 15,000 years for the 'Great Year.' Heraclitus appears to have estimated 10,800 years for the 'Great Year.' Plato's later figure of 36,000 years for the 'Perfect Year' was later identified with the 'Great Year.' Oenopidus and later Philolaus both had estimates of 59 years for the 'Great Year.' It appears Democritus estimated 77 years for the 'Great Year.' See also: The Thousands of Abu Ma'shar (1968) by David Pingree. The book is a detailed study of the topic of the East-Iranian astrologer Abu Ma'shar's version of the idea of world periods initiated and terminated by cataclysms - cyclically recurrent floods and similar catastrophes, and determined astronomically by a conjunction of all planets at the zero point of the ecliptic. A (English-language) book review, "The Thousands of Abu Ma'shar," by Willy Hartner, in which he endorses Hamlet's Mill, is published in The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, (New Series), Volume 104, Issue 1, January, Pages 63-65. The reliable reference on the 'Great Year' is Annus Platonicus: A Study of World Cycles in Greek, Latin and Arabic Sources by Godefroid de Callatay (1995). The claim for a Neolithic zodiac The myth of a prehistoric 12-constellation zodiac (of equal divisions) is not yet extinguished. De Santillana and von Dechend are believed by followers of their book Hamlet's Mill to have shown the extremely ancient character of an evenly divided 12-constellation zodiac. There even appears to be a belief that the zodiac originated as 12 equal divisions. George St. Clair (Myths of Greece Explained and Dated (2 volumes, 1901)) pioneered the use of simply assuming an early equally-spaced 12-constellation zodiac to explain mythology. The technique reached its zenith with the book Hamlet's Mill (1969). The suggestion that the zodiac was originally established as an intended scheme of 12 constellations and 12 equal divisions some 6000 years ago (or even earlier) is untenable. The tide of claims up to the early 20th-century for the great antiquity of the zodiac (made by many historians, astronomers and Assyriologists) have been definitively discredited by an understanding of relevant Mesopotamian cuneiform sources. Nineteenth-century arguments made frequent (misplaced) use of mythology and symbolism i.e., Recherches sur le culte public et les mystères de Mithra en Orient et en Occident by (the French archaeologist) Félix Lajard (1867). The idea that a 12-constellation equally divided Babylonian zodiac originated circa 6000 BCE (enthusiastically promoted by the Panbabylonists Fritz Hommel (Semiticist) and Alfred Jeremias (Archaeologist)) did not begin to be entirely discarded until the pioneering work of Franz Kugler on Babylonian astronomy began appearing. There is no evidence that the Greek scheme of 12 zodiacal constellations existed anywhere prior to its evolvement in Greece circa 500 BCE. The Assyriologist Peter Jensen was the first to show, in his book Die Kosmologie der Babylonier (1890), that the Greek zodiac (and zodiacal constellation names) was adapted (with few changes) from the (newly developed) zodiacal scheme of the Babylonians. The pioneering work on Babylonian astronomy was the monumental Sternkunde und Sterndienst in Babel (1907-1935, 2 volumes and 3 supplements in 7 parts) by the Jesuit mathematician and Assyriologist Franz Kugler. He clearly demonstrated the late origin of Babylonian scientific astronomy and convincingly demonstrated that the Babylonians had a late and sidereal zodiac and a late mathematical astronomy. This meant that precession could not have been marked at an early date through either the constellations or signs of the zodiac. Also, from his study of cuneiform texts, Kugler pointed out that the concept of precessional movement of the tropical points through ecliptic constellations was not contained in early Babylonian astronomical texts. There is nothing in the Babylonian texts to prove a Twins-, Bull-, and Ram-period of precession. The later studies of the mathematicians Otto Neugebauer and Bartel van der Waerden on cuneiform astronomy have clearly shown that the zodiac originated in Mesopotamia and not earlier than the 1st millennium BCE. It was not handed down to the Babylonians from an earlier culture. (Bartel van der Waerden believed he had succeeded in reconstructing a mathematical science that must have existed in the Neolithic Period between 3000 and 2500 BCE, and spread from Central Europe.) Incredibly, de Santillana and von Dechend believe that after 3000 years of writing a supposedly extant and ancient zodiacal scheme is finally only attested by writing circa 500 BCE. Before being used for astrological speculation the zodiac was an astronomical development whose stages are recoverable from Babylonian astronomical cuneiform texts dating from circa 1000 BCE with the Mul.Apin series. The zodiac of signs was invented for use as a reference point in mathematical astronomy. The Babylonian origin of the zodiac is assured on the basis of cuneiform documentation. (In the Path of the Moon: Babylonian Celestial Divination and Its Legacy (2010) by Francesca Rochberg (Chapter Seven: Babylonian Contribution to Hellenistic Astrology); The Heavenly Writing: Divination, Horoscopy, and Astronomy in Mesopotamian Culture (2004) by Francesca Rochberg (Chapter 4: Sources for Horoscopes in Astronomical Texts).) Babylonian equivalents of the names of constellations later used for the divisions of the zodiac occur in Babylonian star lists and other cuneiform texts of the 1st-millennium BCE. The earliest cuneiform evidence for the existence of the 12-sign 'ecliptic' zodiac comes from 5th-century BCE astronomical diaries (Number -453 iv 2, Number -440 rev.3', and Number -418:5, 10 rev.8' and 14'). (Babylonian Horoscopes (1998) by Francesca Rochberg (Chapter 3: Elements of a Babylonian Zodiac).) The concept of the zodiac cannot be found anywhere else before the 5th-century BCE (the pre-Seleucid, Babylonian Persian (Achaemenid) Period). "One can posit the following steps in the development of the zodiac, although it must be said that our knowledge of how the zodiac was first developed is provisional. The division of the schematic calendar into 12 months of 30 days each, such as was used in MUL.APIN, the Astrolabes, and Enuma Anu Enlil, could be correlated with twelve constellations through which the sun was found to travel in one ideal "year" of twelve 30-day months. Because the spring equinox, which was always close to the beginning of the Babylonian year, was to occur in Nisannu (I.15 according to the tradition of MUL.APIN) then Nisannu, or month I, was when the sun was in the constellation Aries (MUL.LÚ.HUN.GA = Agru "the hired man"). For each ideal month, the sun's position in the sky could be identified by the name of a constellation but schematized to correlate the sun's passage through the constellations with the twelve 30-day intervals. The result would be an association of twelve 30-day months and twelve constellations, later standardized to intervals of 30º along the ecliptic." (The Heavenly Writing: Divination, Horoscopy, and Astronomy in Mesopotamian Culture (2004) by Francesca Rochberg (Chapter 4: Sources for Horoscopes in Astronomical Texts, Page 129).) The claim for 'world ages' According to the author's of Hamlet's Mill many ancient cultures believed in 'World Ages.' This involved belief in 'Cycles of 'Dark and Golden Ages'' (= cycles of consciousness rising and falling). These ancient cultures are stated to have rather accurately known the length of the precessional cycle and also the length of a zodiacal age. (The authors of Hamlet's Mill believed that precession was discovered by circa 4000 BCE at least.) The assertion that ancient cultures viewed history as comprised of periodic cycles (a progression of changing world ages) is associated with the precession of the equinoxes and is tied by de Santillana/von Dechend to their assumption that an equally divided 12-constellation zodiac had been established in archaic times. No evidence exists for an equally divided 12-constellation zodiac before circa 500 BCE. The fantasies of de Santillana/von Dechend that ancient cultures viewed the world in terms of zodiac-based cyclic time (driven by precession) fail on this crucial point. Precession is held to be described mythically in terms of catastrophes. (It has been asserted that de Santillana and von Dechend believed the zodiac was invented to described cyclical disasters.) Also, the archaic myths are held to embody precession-based cataclysmic fears. De Santillana and von Dechend set out that the precession of the equinoxes through a 12-part equally divided zodiac was expressed in terms of universal/catastrophic floods. Although change due to precession occurs extremely slowly it is asserted by de Santillana and von Dechend that it was expressed in mythology in terms of violent catastrophes (floods) - due to an apparent shift in the rising of a zodiacal sign of 30 degrees and the apparent shift also of the setting of a zodiacal sign of 30 degrees. This in spite of the fact that nothing violent is suggested by the slow gradual process of precession proceeding at the almost imperceptible rate of about 1° in 72 years. It is not explained why Babylonian astral sciences have no concept of zodiacal world ages or simply world ages per Hamlet's Mill. If this knowledge originated in the ancient Near East it is not explained why the Babylonians were not heir to it. The assyriologist Alasdair Livingstone, dealing with problems posed by the claim by Werner Papke for a high standard of astronomical knowledge being achieved shortly after the invention of writing, pointed out that it must be envisaged: (1) this astronomical knowledge did not subsequently develop and was ultimately forgotten, and (2) this astronomical knowledge had no appreciable effect on the rest of Babylonian "science." These same points apply to the claim put in Hamlet's Mill. Cultures heavily dependent upon agricultural practices seem unaware of precession either by: (1) slow changes in the sky (i.e., altered heliacal rising of stars, or 'tilting' of the sky evidenced at the horizon; or (2) the calendrical use of the stars. The claim the mill myth is astronomical The content of the myth of Amlodhi's Mill ('World Mill') as given by the Danish historian Saxo Grammaticus, explicitly states it is referring to the ocean. According to Saxo Grammaticus, Amlodhi has a great quern in the sea. The authors of Hamlet's Mill, however, interpret it as referring to the sky. Apart from 'cherry-picking' the myths they will deal with, the authors demonstrate they will make interpretations to suit their purpose. For de Santillana and von Dechend, the mill is an astronomical metaphor/code for the movement of the heavens around the world axis. The myth of the mill has commonality/parallels only amongst Indo-European peoples and originate from an ancient common source. (The Indo-European myth of the mill was explored in detail by 19th-century philologists and folklorists (and usually given a nature-myth explanation). As example, see: Curiosities of Indo-European Tradition and Folk-Lore (1863) by the historian Walter Kelly.) The authors of Hamlet's Mill concede there are no myths of mills amongst non Indo-European peoples. The claim for precessional numbers in mythology In his book, Altgermanische Kulturprobleme [Problems of Ancient Germanic Culture] (1929, approximately 160 pages), Franz Schröder (1893-1979, Professor in the University of Wutzburg) pointed out the presence of certain numbers that repeatedly appear in mythology world-wide. (See the unfavourable book review by Gustav Neckel, (from 1923 Professor of Old Germanic Studies at the University of Berlin), in DLZ [Deutsche Literaturzeitung], Band 50, 1929, Pages 521-524. The issue had first been investigated around the turn of the 19th-century by the German star-myth school. Since the publication of Hamlet's Mill it is now common for a range of popular writers and pseudo-historians to claim that the principal precessional code numbers in mythology are: 12 (= number of constellations in the zodiac), 18 (= ?), 30 (= number of degrees allocated along the ecliptic to each zodiacal constellation), 72 (= years for 1 degree of precessional movement - number of years required for equinoctial sun to complete a precessional shift of 1 degree), 360 (degrees; 12 multiplied by 30 degrees = 360 = total number of degrees in the ecliptic), 72 x 30 (= 2160 number of years required for sun to complete passage of 30 degrees along the ecliptic), 2160 x 12 (= 25,920 [also: 360 x 72] The Great Year or one complete precessional cycle) (but see above: The Claim for Precession in the Erra-Epic), 4320 (= number of years required for equinoctial sun to complete precessional shift of 60 degrees; also stated as 72 x 60 = 4320), 72 + 36 (precessional shift of 1/2 degree) (= 108), 108 x 100 (= 10,800), 108 divided by 2 (= 54), 54 x 10 (= 540), and 432,000 (= 540 multiplied by 800; 2160 multiplied by 200 = Norse Myths: Valhalla's fighters = 432,000 - last battle against Fenrir Wolf (but see analysis below), 25,920 (= 72 multiplied by 360; also 12 by 2160 (precession movement through 1 zodiacal sign)); then use of these two numbers to derive 108, 216, 432, and 540, 25,920 divided by 60 (= 432), and 10,800 (= 540 multiplied by 200 (sic); 2160 multiplied by 50 (sic)). According to proponents of Hamlet's Mill the number 72 is the precessional number that is the foundation for various derivatives and multiples that occur in myths. Hamlet's Mill has an unidentified Neolithic culture establishing a 360 degree circle moving 1 degree every 71.6 years, but in encoding the number in mythology they round it to 72! (The rate of precession is not constant. A representative recent figure is 25720 years = 2143 years per 'zodiacal age' = 71.4 years per 1 degree. With 72 years for precession to move 1 degree = 2160 per 'zodiacal age' = 25920 years for the entire cycle to repeat. According to John Major Jenkins (http://edj.net/mc2012/mill1.htm) the traditional estimate of precession was 25920 years. The question is: If we accept ancient knowledge of precession is this a real or rounded/ideal figure?) As Jason Colavito has pointed out in his 27/11/2012 website article "Civilization and Precession (Part 1"): "[T]he numbers ... identified in myth have a much simpler explanation: they are all multiples of 2 and 3, the smallest numbers capable of generating complex multiples. ... Early peoples who did not use a decimal system, tended to use multiples of 2 and 3 because these were the easiest numbers for generating large multiples." In his book, The Myth of Invariance, McClain demonstrates that the various sexagesimal/precessional numbers were as uniquely and specially fitted to acoustical arithmetic as to precessional arithmetic. In effect he adapts the structure of the Hamlet's Mill argument from a presumed astronomical to a likely musical context. The numbers involved in McClain's musical arithmetic include: 30, 60, 216, 360, 432, etc; 12 multiplied by 360 = 4,320; 40 multiplied by 432 = 12,960, etc. As an example of the problem with the uninformed use of numbers in a supposedly astronomical context. It is not unusual to hear the claim repeated that knowledge of precession appears in the Eddas (a collection of old Norse poems and tales dating circa 10th-century CE). The claim simply rests on verse 23 of the poem Grimnismál in the Eddas. At Ragnarok ("end of the world") out of each of the 540 doors of Valholl ("hall of the dead" or "hall of the slain") will come 800 warriors. (It is also pointed out that in verse 24 of the poem there are 540 rooms (or "floor-rooms") in Thor's palace of Bilskirnir.) Stanza 23 of Grimnismál has the descriptive lines: "Five hundred doors and forty, Think I there at Valholl; Eight hundred einhergar go out one door, When they go to fight with the wolf." Valholl was the largest building in Asgard, the celestial realm of the Norse gods/goddesses. The number of doors is multiplied by the number of warriors emerging from each door to achieve an end number of 432,000 warriors. (This calculation and the resulting number of 432,000 is not in the Eddas.) The claim is then made that the number 432,000 refers to a precessional "great year." It is correct that according some sources Valholl has 540 doors each wide enough for 800 warriors. It is correct that the 540 rooms (or "floor-rooms") in Bilskirnir can match the version of 540 doors of Valholl. However, I do not recall any "associated number" such as 800 (or 960) warriors (or whatever) connected with Bilskirnir. Also, according to other sources Valholl has 640 doors each wide enough for 960 warriors. Hence out of the medieval tale we can multiply the former figures and get the resulting number 432,000 or we can multiply the latter figures and get the number 614,400. The figure of 432,000 may be linked with the Babylonian doctrine of "cosmic recurrence" (i.e., a "great year" linked to "powerful" conjunctions, not a precessional "great year"). I have never seen the figure 614,400 touted as belonging to either. (A prime candidate for uncritically promulgating this sort of arithmetic is the Jungian mythologist Joseph Campbell in his (for example) book The Masks of God: Occidental Mythology (1964, Page 459).) The supporters of knowledge of precession in the Eddas seem to have no knowledge of the old Germanic system of calculation. In the old Germanic system of reckoning the "long hundred" had the value of 120. In all likelihood the "five hundred ... and forty" and the "eight hundred" have the Germanic "long hundred" value (not the decimal value 100). Hence 640 doors and 960 warriors. Even orthodox writers may or may not indicate knowledge of the old Germanic system of calculation. Norse Mythology by John Lindow (2001) simply gives 540 doors and 800 warriors. World Mythology by Donna Rosenberg (2nd edition., 1994) simply gives 640 doors and 960 warriors. Myth and Religion of the North by Edward Turville-Petre (1964) gives both 540 (or 640) doors and 800 (or 960) warriors. An important discussion of the issues by Magnus Olsen appeared in (the Danish language) Acta Philologica Scandinavica, Volume VI, 1931-1932. (The particular paper was later included in his collected papers Norrone studier (1938).) See also "Numeracy and the Germanic Upper Decades." by Carol Justus (Journal of Indo-European Studies, Volume 24, 1996). References to Valholl can thus have the numbers 540 and 800 or 640 and 960. References to Bilskirnir simply have the number 540 but not 640 nor 800 or 960. Some people are keen to multiply 540 by 800 but not 640 by 960. For the number 540 Vincent Hopper suggested (Medieval Number Symbolism, 1938, reprinted 1978) that the Medieval Norse (1) had an idealised 360 day year calendar (adjusted by intercalation), (2) calculated time by half years; and (3) 540 denotes a calendar cycle of 3 half years (winter-summer-winter). It seems we may be playing with nothing deeper than mundane calendar-based numbers. A further (standard) study of Valholl is Walhall by Gustav Neckel (1913). His opinion was the "five hundred ... and forty" doors intends to express nothing more than a large number and was perhaps influence by Norse knowledge of the numerous doorways (and vomitoria) of the Roman Colosseum (Coliseum). There were 80 entrances at ground level. However, the Colosseum incorporated a number of vomitoria - passageways designed so that the venue could quickly disperse people into their seats (in 15 minutes), and evacuate them abruptly (in 5 minutes). Note: The ideas that numbers have magical significance is very old and likely originated in Mesopotamia. The number 72 is now commonly claimed as a precessional number by devotees of Hamlet's Mill. The origin(s) of the number 72 remain obscure. There is no compelling reason to associate this number with astronomy or the seasons (6 x 12). The Babylonian ideal year of 360 days divided by 72 gave 5-day weeks (conversely the division of 5-day weeks into the ideal year of 360 days gives the number 72. The number 72 is a reciprocal number. It can originate through multiplication (9 x 8 = 72) and it is 1 of 24 divisors into 360 (= 5). The number 72 is indeed close to the 71.667 years it takes to move through one degree of one sign of the Zodiac. However, 72 (years) also figures in the cycles of Jupiter and Venus. It takes Jupiter 71.1708 years to go around the Sun 6 times. Venus goes around the Sun 8 times whilst the Earth goes around the Sun 5 times. It takes the Earth two days longer to complete this interesting cycle. Due to this ratio, Venus appears to draw a pentagram around the Sun every 8 years. Venus takes 72 years of 365.25 days each, less 18 days to complete 9 pentagrams around the Sun. Also, 72 (years) figures in the Saros cycle (used in ancient times to calculate eclipses). This cycle was 18.03 years, 4 x 18.03 = 72.12 years. More mundanely, Confucius is said to have had 72 disciples (the 72 Worthies), he was also said to be 72 years old when he died. Also, there are 72 malignant spirits in Chinese folk medicine. In the Chuang-tzu there are 72 treacherous rulers. The legendary Chinese ruler, Shen Nong, is said to have discovered tea as an antidote to the 72 poisons he encountered in the development of traditional Chinese medicine. The number 72 appears frequently in Chinese folklore: 72 halls in an underwater palace, 72 merits of a hero and 72 stars in the sky. The number 72 has a relationship to the number 70. There are many example where the number 72 interchangeable with the number 70. Within the context of Mesopotamian number magic it has been noted that all derivatives or multiples of 7 carry with them the idea of wholeness. The number 72 is closely associated with other number '7s' principally: 7 (commonly associated with cosmic perfection), 70, 71, 72, and 73. 70 = 10 x 7; 72 can be divided by: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 18, 24, and 36; 77, and 7 x 7 are self explanatory, as well as 700, 7000, 70,000, 700,000. The number 7 may symbolise the literary/mythical vertical (levels)/horizontal (chambers) structure of the cosmos. The claim for precession as secret knowledge I am unsure who originated the argument that supposed knowledge of precession was supposedly kept secret by its discoverers comprising some sort of 'elite priestly class' (even though diffused world-wide by them). The proponents of the argument are unable to make any sort of evidentiary case. The claim for world-wide ancient knowledge of precession being kept as secret knowledge is simply baseless speculation. Otto Neugebauer has made the point that no transmitted sources contain any hint which implies ancient secret knowledge of precession or advanced astronomical knowledge deliberately withheld from widespread communication. It is a rather odd claim for a number of reasons. The claim is somewhat limited to precession impacting upon established religions and cults and causing 'panic' among devotees. Strangely, this supposed determination for alleged secrecy ensured that calendrical assistance was also withheld. This robs the argument that knowledge of precession held by an ancient elite enabled them to exercise power over the uninformed general population. Why some sort of world-wide 'professional/academic secrecy' would make a difference to eventual commonly observable changed appearances is not explained. Why the ancient Neolithic discovers of knowledge of precession 'packaged' this knowledge for world-wide diffusion is not explained. It hardly matters as it only adds more baseless conjecture to the imaginary schema. It is possible to accept and adjust to changing celestial appearances without the need for explanation (and an anxiety-driven one at that). Also, the myths are not myths secretly kept by an intellectual elite - they are common myths. Part 6: An Alternative Explanation for the Mythology of Hamlet's Mill For de Santillana and von Dechend the main source of myth was astronomy. For Ernest McClain, The Myth of Invariance, the main source is music. McClain argues that the connections between music (pre-Pythagorean mathematical/musical theories) and myth/traditions are much deeper than any connections between astronomy and myth. In attempts to understand mythology the ideas (convincing reinterpretation) of McClain must be considered. In antiquity musical symbolism was understood by all educated persons. There are 2 types of apparent invariances in the natural world that are perceptible by the human senses: astronomical recurrences and harmonic intervals. In adopting a musical approach to myth McClain was influenced by Antonio de Nicholas in his book Meditations Through the Rg Veda: Four Dimensional Man (2003). De Nicholas stressed harmonic invariance. Spanish-born Antonio de Nicolas was educated in Spain, India and the United States, and received his Ph.D. in philosophy at Fordham University in New York. He received his spiritual training, and his education in the Greek and Latin classics at the 12^th-century Monastery of Santa Maria de Veruela in Northern Spain. He is Professor Emeritus of philosophy at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. De Nicholas has persuasively demonstrated that so-called 'precessional number' are uniquely matched to acoustical arithmetic, rather than to 'precessional arithmetic.' Hipparchus stated that "Geometry is frozen music." Ernest McClain (1918- ) is widely known for his efforts to establish the ancient mathematical discipline of music as the means to unlock the inner meaning of history's great religious and philosophical texts. After receiving a doctorate from Teachers College, Columbia University, he joined the Music Faculty of Brooklyn College (part of the City University of New York in 1951, where he taught until his retirement in 1982. Ernest G. McClain is currently (2012) Professor Emeritus at Brooklyn College. He is also a clarinetist. McClain has been retired since 1982 and currently lives in Washington. His persuasive (but ultimately imaginative and suggestive reconstructions from epigraphic evidence) explanations of crucial passages in texts of world literature - the Bible, the Rig Veda, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, and Plato - that deal with numbers, are quite complex. However, he is able to explain the meaning of these numbers within the context of four ancient mathematical disciplines: arithmetic, music, geometry and astronomy. His explanation embraces identical or similar numbers and parallel mathematical constructs in ancient Sumer, Egypt, Babylon, Palestine and Greece. According to Ernest McClain the relationship of music and numbers to ancient cosmology may go back as far as the Neolithic period of Mesopotamia, India, and China. A snippet from The New York Times, April 23, 1987: Critic's Notebook; Magic, Music and Math: "Modern authors, notably Ernest G. McClain in his books ''The Myth of Invariance'' and ''The Pythagorean Plato,'' have argued persuasively that the ancient Babylonians, Hindus, Egyptians and Greeks developed elaborate traditions of tonal symbolism. Phenomena such as harmonic resonances and the tempering of musical scales were related to observations of biological and astronomical cycles. The plotting of these cycles, and the urge to embody them in sound as well as express them in equations, helped spur the development of both music and mathematics." Both de Santillana and McClain specify the origins of numbers based myths in the Neolithic Period. McClain interprets numbers in mythology, not as astronomical as was done in Hamlet's Mill, but to the mathematics of acoustics and tuning theory. Part of a 2006 book review on Amazon.com by Mark Rankin: "His work delves into the lost connections between the musical/mathematical/cosmological theories of the ancient world and the philosophies of the ancient Greeks, the ancient Hebrews, the ancient Hindus, and the ancient Babylonians. In our modern world we use our highest technology to find a unified field "theory of everything". The ancients were no different, except that they used their highest technology to find a "theory of everything" that was based on musical tuning, an ancient sort of "string theory"." McClain credits colleagues Ernst Levy and Siegmund Levarie and their writings (including, A Theory of Harmony (1985 (by Ernst Levy and edited by Siegmund Levarie))) for introducing him to Pythagoreanism via the insights of 19th century theorist Albert von Thimus, who provided the keys to unlocking Plato's mathematical riddles. McClain's 3 books were published during a decade of collaboration with the Spanish scholar Antonio de Nicolas. This collaboration opened a window into other ancient philosophical and religious writings. An important article published in the early 1970s was "Plato's Musical Cosmology," and "Musical Marriages in Plato's Republic." Albert von Thimus (1806-1878), the Gentian lawyer, philologist, and musical scholar is considered one of the most outstanding modern thinkers on the metaphysical aspects of harmony. In his long forgotten (small) book, Die harmonikale Symbolik des Alterthums: Zwei Abteilungen (1870; reprinted 1988), Albert von Thimus, a polymath and indefatigable researcher into ancient harmonic theory called attention to many arithmetical and graphical structures in the tonal imagery of the ancient world. For a discussion of McClain's ideas see: Beyond Measure (2002) by Jay Kappraff; Harmonies of Heaven and Earth (1987) by Joscelyn Godwin; and, The Shape of Ancient Thought (2002) by Thomas Evilley. See also the importance article: "Music as Basic Metaphor and Deep Structure in Plato and in Ancient Cultures." by Patrick Heelan S.J. in (the now defunct) Journal of Social and Biological Structures, Volume 2, Number 4, Pages 279-291). De Santillana and von Dechend posit the Early Neolithic and McClain posits the Late Neolithic. De Santillana and McClain share an interest in Pythagoreanism. McClain's book title The Myth of Invariance is based on a statement by de Santillana in his introduction to Hamlet's Mill. In a posting to talk.origins (8 August, 1994) Leroy Ellenberger writes: "... th e implicit imprimatur they [de Santillana and von Dechend, Hamlet's Mill] give McClain's approach. ... [D]e Santillana allows: "Mathematics was moving up to me from the depth of centuries; not after myth, but before it ... *Number* g ave the key [emphasis added]. ... [T]he list of world-class scholars who are *i nterested* in McClains's insights includes: H. von Dechend (Frankfort), H.A.T. Reiche (M.I.T ...), S. Parpola (Helsinki) and A.D. Kilmer (Berkeley). .. . [According to] McClain's work, the harmonic numerology of the Sumerians is mo del-drive and proceeds from 30-60 and 360-720 "octaves" to larger bases in order to achieve better whole number fraction approximations to the ir rational ratios that inhabit the octave, especially the square root of two that harmonically bisects it." This account is contrary to McClain's recollection. McClain is quite clear that neither Hertha von Dechend or Harald Reiche showed any real interest in, or attempt to understand, his ideas. Neither did they inc orporate them into their own work. Part 7: Some Critics and Criticisms Hamlet's Mill has been described as "subjective exegesis." Properly, exegesis is the careful investigation of the original meaning of texts in their historical and literary contexts. It involves critical analysis, interpretation and explanation. There are solid reasons to conclude the authors fail to accurately interpret the meaning of texts. Numerous supporters of Hamlet's Mill readily engage in 'word smithing' exercises to try and 'work around' the informed criticisms of the book. (1) Some summary points in the book review by Edmund Leach [Anthropologist] in The New York Review (of Books), February 12, 1970, Page 36: "[T]he murky confusion generated by reading any random twenty pages of Hamlet's Mill is strongly reminiscent of Frobenius. Indeed, the whole operation is not much more than a gloss on two early works of the extraordinary author, Die Mathematik der Oceaner (1900) and Das Zeitalter des Sonnengottes (1904)." "Whether any such cosmic legend ever existed anywhere at all, all in one piece, seems, on the evidence of this book, to be extremely doubtful, but those who want to believe in such improbabilities as flying saucers are never likely to be put off by mere lack of evidence." "The whole enterprise is rather like a demonstration that Francis Bacon wrote the plays of William Shakespeare. Provided you are certain of your answers before you start, the clues and acrostics can be found almost anywhere." "Something like 60 percent of the text is made up of complex arguments about Indo-European etymologies which would have seemed old-fashioned as early as 1870." "It was proposed by Kuhn in 1852 that the name Prometheus is a corruption of Sanskrit Pra-mantha, a fire stick. Although this etymology has long ago been completely rejected as linguistically quite impossible ... Hamlet's Mill not only resurrects the equation but gives it enormous elaboration so that Prometheus's fall from celestial grace is made to provide evidence that our ancestors of 6000 years ago could recognize a shifting in the position of the Pole Star!" "But the skeptic need never feel browbeaten by the battery of foot-notes and appendices. Half the time the authors get their references wrong anyway. For example, at p. 142 they blandly assert that "during the last hundred years it has been taken for granted that no one could have detected the Precession (of the Equinoxes) prior to Hipparchus's alleged discovery of the phenomenon in 127 B.C.," and they then go on to argue that evidence of a much earlier understanding of the phenomenon is to be found in ancient mythology. But this is just false. The issue has been discussed repeatedly ...." (2) Some summary points in the book review by Jaan Puhvel [Philologist/Historian] in The American Historical Review, Volume LXXV, Number 6, October, 1970, Pages 2009-2010: "[The authors set out to prove that] ... myth is a repository of arcane astronomical (and astrological) knowledge .... This the authors do by a combination of heavy scholarship, withering hubristic polemicism, and portentous oracular style." "The long-forgotten period-piece etymologies of Max Müller and Adalbert Kuhn ("surely a great scholar," p. 381) are blithely resurrected (for example, Sanskrit Pramantha matching Greek Prometheus, p. 139), while more up-to-date authorities are caricatured as "severe philologists, slaves to exact 'truth' (p. 294)." "In brief this is not a serious scholarly work on the problem of myth in the closing decades of the twentieth century." (3) Some summary points in the book review by Lynn White Junior [Historian] in Isis, Volume 61, 1970, Pages 540-541: :"In his preface (p. x) de Santillana expresses admiration for von Dechend's virtue of "scornful indignation." "Arrogant oversimplification" might be an equivalent phrase." "Von Dechend assumes a single astronomical origin in the Near East for the entire global corpus of mythologies. Her only proofs are analogy, often strained. On a single page (425) she connects myths of Greece, Japan, Egypt, Iceland, the Marquesas, and the Cherokee Indians. On page 309, a rabbinical and a Pawnee tradition show "unmistakeable" identity. On page 320 we read "here Greek myth suddenly emerges in full light among Indian tribes in America, miraculously preserved." One might quote such passages indefinitely." "The Norse hero Amlodhi had a great quern in the sea where Nine Maids ground out his meal. In his classic Hamlet in Iceland Sir Israel Gollanz concluded that "Hamlet's Mill" may mean anything." "But admitting that drills and churns offer a possible symbolism of the retrograde parts of the observed paths of the planets, anyone who has operated a fire drill or churn knows that the alterations in directions of rotation are necessarily so swift that to turn them into symbols of the solemn wheeling of the heavenly bodies is a psychological absurdity." (4) Some summary points in the book review by Gerald Gresseth [Philologist/Classicist] in Journal of American Folklore, Volume 84, Number 332, April/June, 1971, Pages 246-247: "[I]t does not appear (the authors never say) why this information had to be encoded in myth - and not in simple asterisms, at that, but in complex myths that on the surface at least would seem to have no reference to even the stars, let alone the precession." "[T]his theory precludes, in accordance with its own criteria, any way of accounting for the variants and combinations of motifs in any one myth type (Flood myth for example). One feature of Flood myths is the suddenness of the flood - hardly in keeping with the precessional motion of the earth." "Even granting that this ancient "brains trust" did encode such knowledge in myth, how does it happen that the code was so completely lost that even the learned do not know it, though these same societies managed to hand down other types of information well enough?" "[T]here seems to be no other record other than the code of the myth for this important astronomical knowledge." "[T]here is no attempt in the book to demonstrate how this astronomical information was diffused in myth from the ancient Near East to North America, Polynesia, and other parts of the world." "There is much else that folklorists would like to have the authors explain. For instance, did these ancient thinkers use already existing myths to encode their discoveries in? If so, what was the origin of these myths?" (5) Some summary points in the book review by Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin [Astronomer] in Journal for the History of Astronomy, Volume 3, 1972, Pages 206-211: "[T]he threads of the argument are not closely knit. Rather they are loosely braided, and the final pattern does not leap to the eye. I tried without success to reproduce the development of the theme by writing a brief paragraph to summarize each chapter." "Much of the book will be unfamiliar to anyone save an extremely well-read specialist. The flamboyant and allusive style serves only to deepen the obscurity. Why should the reader be expected to recognise allusions to The possessed, or Mabinogion, or Flaubert's unfinished satirical novel? Why should he be bewildered by a punning reference to quasars? What is he to make of the author's comment on Nonnos: "It takes some nerve to say of the Galaxy that it meanders - actually the Greek text has it that it moves in a helix"; for that is exactly what it does, and perhaps Nonnos was announcing a proleptic discovery of galactic rotation." "The minor evidences of carelessness [on the part of the authors] suggest a certain insouciance in composition, and impose ... the problem of examining the book's fidelity to its sources." "The treatment of classical mythology and its derivatives seems to be needlessly obscure, and (as the authors remark of Eisler) "provides more information than guidance."" "The "good reason to assume" an earlier discovery [of precession to Hipparchus] must rest on the idea that it was likely. It is argued that "our ancestors ... were endowed with minds wholly comparable to ours", therefore they were capable, "always given the means at hand", of perceiving Precession. They may have done so; it is notoriously difficult to prove a negative. But to use the myths as evidence that they did, and then to use this conclusion to interpret the myths, smacks of a circular argument." "The Zodiac forms a sort of backdrop to the drama, but it falls somewhat out of focus. Yet the origin of the zodiacal constellations seems to lie at the heart of the mystery. We could wish that the book included a documentation of this fascinating subject. The authors glance at a few details .... But they claim that they "must not be drowned in the abyss of details of comparative constellation lore." In other words they do not consider the history of the constellations as important a subject as others to which they devote massive documentation. It is in fact a question of which abyss you choose." (6) Some summary points in the book review by Albert Friedman [Folklorist/Historian] in Journal of the History of Philosophy, Volume X, 1972, Page 479: "The authors, both seasoned historians of science, have concocted a book that reads like Velikovsky bouncing along the Road to Xanadu." "This archaic astronomical monomyth, diffused from China to Peru, no longer exists in its pristine integrity but has to be painfully teased out of the flotsam and jetsam that surfaces sporadically in chronicles, epics and latter-day literary myths, and it is to this task that the authors address themselves. The result is unconvincing." "Erudite references are heaped together with too little attention to designing a credible argument; tenuous associations are passed off as sensational and indubitable proofs; their is much sleight-of-hand with entymologies; passages in epics are eccentrically explicated to yield the desired interpretation." "But what is most exasperating about the book is the author's coy way of paying out their findings. Just as a train of argument is about to come to the point, a digression is maddeningly introduced to heighten the suspense; the startling promises of topic sentences and paragraphs somehow never get realized in the tangle of forced facts and dubious speculations that follow." "[N]ow and then an arresting idea emerges, but these tidbits hardly compensate for the frailty of the thesis and the overly calculated exposition." (7) Some summary points in the book review by Geoffrey Kirk [Classicist] in The Spectator, Volume 225, Part 2, Number 7434, 19 December, 1970, Page [220?] 809: "This imaginative and perverse volume represents a further installment of a vision developed over the past twenty years within the improbable portals of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology." "The ... theory is that world mythology contains relics of a lost archaic belief that world-ages succeed one another in accord with the precession of the equinoxes, an idea [held] familiar several millennia before Hipparchus. This remarkable and improbable conclusion is presented in language that is mystical and apocalyptic as much as vague and dogmatic: 'mathematics was moving up to me from the depth of centuries'." "The basic intuition about a vast but fugue-like corpus of ancient astronomical knowledge is very loosely supported by reference to the Pythagoreans and Plato, to number-imagery in the Vedas, to the Avesta, to Gilgamesh and other Mesopotamian figures, and to the northern tales of Hamlet that give the book its title. Amlodhi in Norse legend owned a mill that ground out peace and prosperity; later it degenerated to producing salt; ultimately, at the bottom of the sea, it produces mere rock and sand and is the source of the Maelstrom, one of the entrances of the underworld: 'This imagery stands, as the evidence develops, for an astronomical process, the secular shifting of the sun through the signs of the zodiac which determines world-ages ...'." "The chaotic presentation of the argument is defended by reference to the 'non-catenary' nature of the archaic structure of ideas it seeks to disclose." "The style in which these ideas are presented varies from the imprecise and pretentious (Socrates's 'inimitable' habit of using myth for the discussion of serious matters) to the absurd ('The epics of Gilgamesh and Era offer too many trees for our modest demands.')." "More serious, there is virtually nothing in the way of cogent argument. Even in the appendices where the texture of thought appears least diffuse, it is rare to find two propositions of which it may be said that the one follows necessarily or even probably from the other." "Yet at the points where I was qualified to test it the information the information was either inaccurate or wilfully interpreted: something that the authors, who defy 'experts' and the like, would obviously not accept." (8) Some summary points in the book review by Hilda Davidson [Folklorist/Historian] in Folklore, Volume CXXXV, 1974, Pages 282-283: "It is assumed, although the evidence of the Dogon in Africa (quoted in Appendix L) would seem to contradict it. that the general system of astronomy must always follow the same fundamental lines among early and preliterate people." "[The book] ... is amateurish in the worst sense, jumping to wild conclusions without any knowledge of the historical value of the sources or of previous work done." "On the Scandinavian side there is heavy dependence on the fantasies of Rydberg, writing in the last century, and apparent ignorance of progress made since his time." "No one can take seriously an elaborate theory based on an extremely obscure and imperfectly preserved passage of skaldic verse, relying on one translation, that of Gollanz." "It is nonsense to state (p. 26) that the culture of the Finno-Ugric peoples was utterly cut off from the Scandinavians until recently: and one might continue on these lines indefinitely." "[The book] ... attempts to dogmatize in fields in which the authors are not sufficiently at home." (9) Some summary points in the book review by David Leeming [Folklorist] in Parabola, Volume III, Issue 1, 1978, Pages 113-115: "The book seems to ... be an attempt to prove a pet theory, to the exclusion of others equally valid." "[T]he authors appear to be blinded by their own voluminous scholarship; their extensive footnotes, appendices, and tangential meanderings most of the time bury whatever it is they are trying to say. In fact, Hamlet's Mill reads like a parody of nineteenth century scholarship of the German variety. For all its pretensions to freshness and originality, it is ... one of the most muddled books yet written on the subject of myth." "Hamlet's Mill is, finally, fantasy, but it is too top-heavy to enjoy. ... The problem is, Santillana and von Dechend try to prove a nearly exclusive connection by means of a parade of loosely related information. This is the rationalist fallacy. Give me a theory - especially one as wild as this - and with enough mythic material I can "prove" it, simply because there are so many mythic "facts" to draw from." (10) Some summary points in the (favourable) book review by Carroll Quigley [Historian] in The Washington Sunday Star, 25 January, 1970: "[T]his volume is ... badly organized and badly written. The main arguments should have been clearly stated at the outset, and the evidence including that derived from folklore, should then have been mobilized to support the arguments. Instead the arguments only emerge by implication, and not in the early chapters, where they are buried and confused by a flood of stories from worldwide folklore fragments." "[T]he purpose of the book is largely defeated, not by its scholarship but by its confused presentation. ... The chapter headings and the language of the text are similarly allusive and poetical. But a scientific argument has to be written in the clearest prose possible, with the thesis presented and precision. No theses such as these can emerge by implication nor be proved by even the most copious cumulation of ambiguous stories from folklore." "There is a second weakness in this volume: its authors are so obsessed with the precession of the equinoxes that they refuse to see that primitive thinkers had other worries. ... In this they are in grave error and simply reveal their inability to get inside the minds of archaic men." (11) Article critique by Frederic [Frederick] Amory: A neglected/forgotten (English-language) critique of Hamlet's Mill is: Amory, Frederick [Frederic] (1925-2009). (1977). "The Medieval Hamlet: A Lesson in the Use and Abuse of a Myth." (Deutsche Vierteljahresschrift für Literaturwissenschaft und Geistesgeschichte, Volume 51, Number 3, September, Pages 357-395). [Note: Includes 123 references. Abstract: I. Réfutation de l'interprétation cosmologique donnée par G. deSantillana et H. von Dechend (Hamlet's Mill, 1969) de l'histoire d'H. Le moulin magique dans les mythologies nordiques et scandinaves, dans le folklore, la religion germanique, et les épopées nordiques. II. L'A. considère Hamlet comme le personnage du fourbe décrit par Lévi-Strauss dont la fourberie résoud dans un mythe un cas d'inceste. L'Hamlet de Saxo Grammaticus: sources irlandaises et islandaises, diverses formes de la légende. Son achèvement chez Shakespeare. At the time of his death Frederic Amory was Emeritus Professor of English at the University of San Francisco, San Francisco. He was trained in the graduate schools of Harvard University and the University of California, Berkeley, in comparative and interdisciplinary ethnography.] A sample of Amory's informed critique: "The methodology of Hamlet's Mill is uninfluenced by the structuralism of Lévi-Strauss, or the comparative methods of Dumézil,^53 but the authors, nevertheless, should not have entrenched themselves in nineteenth century German scholarship against the newer French schools of linguistics, mythography, and anthropology (Griaule's group of Africanists excepted), for they have perpetuated through their dependence on that scholarship many ancient and ridiculous errors of fact and interpretations, and they have never faced up to the crucial dilemma before the "science of myth" - how to reconcile the mythmaking propensity with the sympathetic investigation of myths - which Lévi-Strauss seized so boldly by the horns in the preface to the first volume of his Mythologiques (1964)." See his essay: http://www.houseofideas.com/mscornelius/resources/hamlet/saxo_grammati cus__frederic_amory_essay_date_september_1977_269831-.pdf [Note: Other book reviews appear in Atlas, Volume 18, 1969, Page 15-?; The Library Journal Book Review, (R.R. Bowker Company), 1969, Page 528; Chicago Tribune Book World, Volume 3, 1969, Page(s) ?; The American Scholar, Volume 39, 1970, Page 171-? (by William Shimer); Saturday Review, Volume 53, 1970, Pages 102-105 (by Bernard De Voto); Saturday Review, Volume 53, 1970, Page(s) ?; Revue de l'histoire des religions, Volume 180, Issue 180-182, Pages 216-217, 1971 (by J.-P. Roux (French-language); Dialogue, Volume 11, 1978, Page(s) 85-? (by William Dibble, then professor of physics at Brigham Young University - that is very peculiar); The Griffith Observer, Volumes 51-52, 1987, Pages ?; Bulletin de la société de mythologie française, Issues 160-169, 1991, Page 41 (re 1990 Adelphi edition); and the (English-language) book review by ? in International Journal of Behavioural Development, March, 1999, Volume 23, Number 1, within Pages 272-281. I have not seen the article discussion in Zeitschrift für Assyriologie und vorderasiatische Archäologie, 1975, Volume 64, Part 1.] Part 8: Some Corrections Some corrections and additions to the original English-language edition of Hamlet's Mill: Page xvii: The Royal Art of Astronomy = The Royal Art of Astrology. Page xi: Quote is incorrectly attributed to Troilus instead of Pandarus. Page 7: 9 X 13 = 9 X 12. Page 34: Shakespeare's Hamlet is misquoted. Page 69: raciation = ratiocination. Page 137: Shakespeare's Hamlet is misquoted. Page 139: appendix #15 = appendix #14. Page 142: The reference to Hipparchus' discovery that the north pole turns about the ecliptic pole should be reworded to avoid creating the impression that the discovery of the latter was a consequence of the discovery of the phenomenon of precession. It is the obliquity of the ecliptic itself, i.e., the solar year, which implies an ecliptic pole distinct from the north pole. Illustrations between pages 142-143: The figure legends on each page have been interchanged. Page 163: alternative = alternating. Page 197: Heliand = Heiland. (But Rodger Cunningham kindly brought to my attention that Heliand is the correct Old Saxon form as the authors seem to be referring obliquely to the medieval poem of that title.) Page 197: Pier della Vigna = Pier delle Vigne or Petro della Vigna. (Kindly brought to my attention by Roger Cunningham.) Page 211: Red Sea = Persian Gulf. Page 242: Johannes = Johannis. Page 338: Tennyson's verse is misquoted. Page 349: St. Cecelia's Day = St. Cecilia's Day. Page 367: Appendix 9 has no page (text) reference but page 93, line 3 is most likely intended. Page 377: Paradise Lost, 10 = Paradise Lost, 9. Page 380: alternative = alternating. Page 389: oscillating = alternating. Page 409: mission = mansions. Page 427: Appendix 37 has no page (text) reference but page 319 or 320 is most likely intended. Page ?: Lysis (by Plato circa 380 BCE) instead of Lysias (Greek speech writer and story teller (life dates: circa 445-380 BCE)). Note: The brief errata list that was enclosed with the 1993 German-language edition (by Hertha von Dechend) was left out of the 1994 reprint of such. Part 9: Some Books Preceding/Influencing Hamlet's Mill The Orion or Researches into The Antiquity of the Vedas (1893) by Bál Tilak. (Demolitions of Tilak's fantasies (which later proponents copy) can be found in: "The Home of the Aryans: an Astronomical Approach," by N. R. Waradpande. In: Shantaram Bhalchandra Deo and Suryanath Kamath (Editors). The Aryan Problem (1993, Pages 123-134); The RigVeda, a Historical Analysis by Shrikant Talageri (1st edition 2000; 2nd edition 2009); The Saffron Swastika by Koenraad Elst (2001, Volume 2). Some comments from publications by Koenraad Elst: "This erratic theory is so inordinately popular among Western racists for providing "independent" Indian confirmation to a North-European Homeland Theory (in reality, Tilak had tried to bend the Vedic evidence often ludicrously, to bring it in conformity with fashionable Western theories)." "The main point is that Tilak goes to absurd lengths to read "Arctic" references in Vedic episodes, e.g., the Battle of the Ten Kings is interpreted metaphorically as referring to the "ten cold months" ...." Tilak's "... theories find no genuine support whosoever in the Vedic text or in any other expression of Hindu tradition, which is why at the end of his life, Tilak developed doubts." Tilak's argument also relied on now outdated early studies of the Vedas by European scholars who advocated a great antiquity for Hindu astronomy. Also, Tilak saw support for his (flawed) chronology in the studies of Hermann Jacobi (whose dating arguments for the 5th-millennium BCE as the date of the Vedas are largely rejected). The proper foundations for the history and antiquity of the Vedas and Hindu astronomy were laid by Max Müller and Henry Colebrooke. The work of David Pingree has clarified many issues and further supports a recent origin for Indian astronomy.) Astralmythen: Religionsgeschichtliche untersuchungen (5 parts, 1896-1907) by Eduard Stucken. Eduard Stucken (1865-1936(sometime incorrectly given as 1937)) (Germany (Stucken was born in Moscow and died in Berlin)) Writer/Amateur Philologist. Stucken Edward was the son of a German-American merchant. After attending high school in Dresden from 1882 to 1884, he completed a commercial apprenticeship in Bremen. Subsequently, he studied art history, Assyriology and Egyptology in Dresden and Berlin. He worked temporarily at the German Naval Observatory in Hamburg and traveled extensively, including to Greece, the Crimea, the Caucasus, and Italy and England as well. During 1890/1891 he took part in a scientific expedition to Syria. From 1891 he worked as a freelance writer in Berlin. In the following decades, he published a number of scientific studies in addition to anthropological and historical subjects. His extensive published output also included literary works. Eduard Stucken has been described as an exotic and esoteric writer of neo-Romantic tendencies with a predilection for mythological themes. His literary work includes novels, short stories, poems and plays. In his early, neo-romantic dramas his works are often derived from Celtic mythology. His prose works are characterized by the author's penchant for opulence and exoticism, and a tendency toward a bombast style. Stucken produced wordy verse fairy tales in his 8-part dramatic Holy Grail cycle (most of which appeared 1902-19l6, Die Zauberer Merlin appeared in 1924). Stucken also wrote several Arthurian plays in rhyming verse, which were produced by M. Reinhardt, Gawan (1902), Lanzelot (1909), and Merlins Geburt (1912), and treated the story of Tristan in the play Tristram und Ysolt (1916). Stucken's most successful work was the multi-volume (trilogy) historical novel, Die weißen Götter (1918-22), describing (inaccurately) the destruction of the Aztec empire by the Spanish. The set of historical novels deals with Mexico and Montezuma in the period before and after the advent of Cortes. See the critical (English-language) book review (in The Saturday Review of Literature, November 17, 1934, Page 289) by Oliver Farge of the English-language translation (by Frederick Martens), The Great White Gods (1934). Stucken is criticised for being a mediocre historian. Another of his historical works that was translated into English was The dissolute years; a pageant of Stuart England, translated Marguerite Harrison, published New York, Farrar & Rinehart, 1935. Stucken's 5 volumes of Astralmythen appeared over the years 1896-1907. Stucken had intellectual connections with the star-myth school of Siecke in that he adopted the methods of the star-myth school. However, Stucken (an amateur Orientalist/philologist) knew no restraint and attempted to trace the whole system of world myths (at least those he believed to be astral) back to Babylon. It was the work of Stucken that paved the way for the attempt to make Babylonia the prime centre of all religious thought. The sources for old Babylonian religion included an emphasis on, both actual and imagined, astronomical and meteorological phenomena. When the notion of diffusion was added on we had Panbabylonism. The religious nature of scientific knowledge in ancient Mesopotamia was quickly recognised from the earliest studies of cuneiform scientific texts. This - and building on the claims of the amateur comparative mythologist Stucken - was the foundation for the Panbabylonist claim for the existence of astral religions. Eduard Stucken belonged to the Prussian Academy of Arts and remained a member even after the Nazi purges of the Academy in 1933. In October 1933 he was one of the "loyal German authors" who were signatories of the loyalty pledge "Faithful Pledge of Allegiance ("Gelöbnisses treuester Gefolgschaft")," addressed to the Hitler regime. (See also: "Eduard Stucken: Eine Studie." by Clemens de Baillou (Kentucky Foreign Romance Quarterly, Volume 8, Issue 1, 1961, Pages 1-6).) Less accessible is the most detailed examination of Eduard Stucken, Eduard Stucken: Eine Monographie by Ingeborg Carlson (1924-?) (1961, Reprinted 1978 as Eduard Stucken : (1865-1936) : ein Dichter und seine Zeit, German-language PhD thesis).) Eduard Stucken (Photograph details unknown) Das Zeitalter des Sonnengottes (1904) by Leo Frobenius. Leo Frobenius (1873-1938) had, from the early 1900s, published Panbabylonian ideas and claimed correspondence between mythological themes and celestial phenomena, world-wide. The German ethnographer Leo Frobenius was the founder of the Institute of Cultural Morphology, which was destroyed by Allied Bombing in World War II. His work is now regarded as outdated and flawed. He created dozens of speculative/foolish theories. See: "Leo Frobenius and the Revolt Against the Western World." by Suzanne Marchand in Journal of Contemporary History, Volume 32, Number 2, April, 1997, Pages 153-170. In 1911 he claimed to have discovered the 'lost continent of Atlantis' in Africa. See: Leo Frobenius, anthropologue, explorateur, aventurierle monde étranger, c'est moi (1999) by Hans-Jürgen Heinrichs. Frobenius was an eccentric amateur German ethnologist/anthropologist and archaeologist, who was the originator of the concepts of the Kulturkreise (culture circles) and of the Paideuma (or "soul" of culture). He lacked formal academic qualifications and was criticized by scientists for his non-systematic and rather romantic approach to anthropology. Frobenius was involved in extensive research in Africa, which was made possible by donors and by his own income from books and lectures. He left school without gaining any formal qualifications because his family moved constantly, and Frobenius did not attend school regularly. For this reason he could not satisfactorily take up his studies at a university but became an autodidact. His PhD thesis was rejected. Leo Frobenius, a pupil of Friedrich Ratzel, expanded on the "culture circle" concept. See: Frobenius, Leo (1898) Die Weltanschauung der Naturvolker. The Kulturkreise (culture circle) school of thought was proposed by Friedrich Ratzel and the concept then widened by his student Leo Frobenius. This version formulated by Leo Frobenius in Vienna was called "culture circles" or Kulturkreise. In Das Zeitalter des Sonnengottes, Frobenius sought an ancient sun myth origin for world-wide mythology. Das Alte Testament im Lichte des Alten Orients (3rd Revised Edition 1916 (2 Volumes)) by Alfred Jeremias. (The claim of the German Panbabylonists (especially Alfred Jeremias) that Mesopotamian/Sumerian astrology originated in the supposed zodiacal age of Gemini (circa 5,000 - 6,000 BCE) and is the foundation of all the religions and cultures throughout the world is impossible to maintain. Both Hugo Winckler and Alfred Jeremias claimed the astral theory underpinning the 'Weltanschauung' ('view of the universe') originated in the 'Age of the Twins' (Gemini). Winkler dated such between 5,700 BCE and 2,500 BCE. Alfred Jeremias (The Old Testament in the Light of the Ancient Near East, (English edition (1911), Volume 1, Pages 13 & 71) claimed mythological motifs connecting the beginning of a new era with Gemini (Dioscuros myths) indicate that the zodiac was devised in the 'Age of the Twins.' He further claimed: "A planisphere from the library of Assurbanipal [K 8538 (CT 33, 10)], based upon ancient calculations ... show's a graduation of the sun's course and marks for the zero point a point between the Bull and the Twins ("Scorpion's Star, 70 degrees")." Alfred Jeremias concluded that the zodiacal division of the heavens was devised in the 'Age of Gemini' prior to the Sumerian civilization beginning. Also, he claimed: "In the most remote time upon which we have as yet any historical light, the spring equinox was in the zodiacal sign of Gemini." It would be a mistake to think that Alfred Jeremias was a pioneering assyriologist. Alfred Jeremias was, of course, no such person. After studying Assyriology and theology Alfred Jeremias spent most of his life working as a Lutheran Pastor in Leipzig. He basically pursued assyriology as a pastime and only late in life came to hold a permanent university position in assyriology. Following World War 1 Jeremias spent his time mostly updating his key publications and produced only a few new pamphlets. Alfred Jeremias would be judged "odd" by reasonable benchmarks. He held that the various cultures of mankind are no more than the dialects of one and the same spiritual language. He became an admirer of the notorious racist Hermann Wirth who was a Dutch-German lay amateur folklorist and historian of ancient religions and symbols. It appears Alfred Jeremias was not above toying with reincarnation and characterising the Panbabylonist Hugo Winckler as an old Babylonian king. During the hey-day of Panbabylonism (early 19th-century) the chronology of early Mesopotamian/Babylonia was in a confused state. Very early dates were mistakenly established. Mesopotamian/Babylonian chronology was not suitably stabilized until circa the 1940s. At the turn of the 19th-century Sargon of Akkad was dated to circa 3,800 BCE until decades later circa 2,350 BCE was confidently established. (In one of his publications Jeremias dated Sargon to 2,650 BCE.) Hermann Hilprecht had no problem with dating Enshakushanna, an early king of Uruk, to circa 6,500 BCE. The current dating is circa 2,500 BCE. At this period in assyriology new material always compelled lowering of dates. (See, for example: "A Third Revision of the Early Chronology of Western Asia." By William Albright (Bulletin of the American School of Oriental Research, Number 88, December, 1942, Pages 28-36).) Altgermanische Kulturprobleme (1929) by Franz Schröder. Handbuch der Altorientalischen Geisteskultur (2nd Revised Edition, 1929) by Alfred Jeremias. (Written from a Panbabylonian perspective.) Les Cycles du retour éternel (1963 (2 Volumes)) by Jean-Charles Pichon. Die vedischen Nachrichten von den Naxatra (2 Parts, 1860-1861) by Albrecht Weber. Albrecht Weber (1825-1901) was a German Indologist and historian. His field of specialisation was Vedic literature. Weber also made valuable contributions in the field of Jain studies and Prakrit. He was considered one of the outstanding scholars of the latter half of the 19th-century. In 1842, he went to Breslau University where he studied Sanskrit with the Indologist Adolf Stenzler. He also attended lectures on classical philology and history. He later went to Bonn and Berlin and then returned to Breslau. He received his PhD at Breslau where, in 1845, he submitted his doctoral thesis Yajurveda Specimen cum commentario. From 1846 to 1848 he visited England and France in connection with his studies. A travel grant from the Prussian Academy enabled Weber to stay in France and England. During his stay in these countries he collated manuscripts of the White Yajurveda. On his return to Germany, he went to the University of Berlin, where he was privatdocent. In 1848, Weber qualified as university professor in Berlin. In 1856 he became an Adjunct (Associate) Professor of the Language and Literature of Ancient India. In 1867 he was appointed full professor. Weber was a member of the Academy of Sciences of Berlin, and was the author of many books and periodical contributions on classical subjects. Weber educated a whole generation of Indologists. Also, he was a close friend of Max Müller. The problem of the chronology of Indian texts induced Weber to study astronomical texts. In his Die vedischen Nachrichten von den Naxatra ("Vedic accounts of the Nakshatras"), published in 2 parts, 1860 and 1861, he concluded (correctly) that the Indian 'lunar mansions,' the nakshatras, could not have originated in China ('lunar lodges') as this type of system was mentioned earlier in India. After studying the semantic development of the word nakshatra in Vedic sources, Weber concluded (incorrectly) that the Indian (and other ?) concept of lunar 'mansions' had been borrowed from Babylonia. Influential Panbabylonian proponents or supporters referenced a the end of Hamlet's Mill include: (1) Anton Deimel, (2) Friedrich Delitzsch, (3) Fritz Hommel, (4) Georg Hüsing, (5) Peter Jensen, (6) Alfred Jeremias, (7) Eduard Stucken, (8) Knut Tallqvist, (9) Albrecht Weber, (10) Ernst Weidner, and (11) Heinrich Zimmern The belief in coded astronomy pre Hamlet's Mill Astro-mythological interpretations of mythology involving precession certainly existed prior to Hamlet's Mill. The belief in 'coded astronomy' in myth also existed prior to Hamlet's Mill. It's foundations originated in the 1930s with Friedrich Röck, a professor at the University of Vienna. Röck (following Eduard Seler (who, by 1906, was influenced by the German star myth school and Panbabylonism) and the Viennese priest Damien Kriechgauer) believed that Mesoamerican manuscripts contained hidden astronomical content. Röck called his method "Ortugskunde," "the science of getting one's bearings." (In the early 1950s Röck was Professor Emeritus.) Karl Nowotny (1904-1978, an authority on ancient Mesoamerica), who studied art history and ethnology at the University of Vienna in the 1930s and was a student of Röck, in his doctoral dissertation (Kommentar zum Codex Laud) completed in 1939 critically discussed the concept coded astronomy in the Mexican Codex Laud. The use of Röck's "Ortugskunde," and concessions to it, were forced on Nowotny by Röck as his dissertation supervisor. The influential and productive Americanist Eduard Seler (1849-1922) is considered the founder of pre-colonial Mexican and Amerindian studies in Germany. He traveled to Mexico six times between 1887 and 1910 with his wife (who was his co-researcher). Eduard Seler's work is closely linked to that of his wife, Caecilie Seler-Sache. Friedrich Röck was born in Imst (Tyrol), July 14, 1879, and died in Linz (Upper Austria), November 10, 1953. He was an ethnologist and in 1927 he established the Vienna Ethnological Museum and became its director. (The opening ceremony was on May 25, 1928.) He popularised ethnology and decoded the Codex Vindobonensis Mexicanus (Maya hieroglyphs). Karl Nowotny (21.6.1904, Hollabrunn (Lower Austria) - 31.12.1978, Vienna) was an Austrian ethnographer, art historian and academic, specialising in the study of Mesoamerican cultures. He is most renowned for his pioneering analyses and reproductions of Mesoamerican codices, and his commentaries on their iconography and symbolisms. Nowotny also contributed extensively to the study and interpretation of pre-Columbian Mesoamerican calendars, their functioning and how they were used. His analysis and exposition of the ritual and divinatory importance of the Tonalamatl Almanac has been regarded as of "critical importance" to the modern understanding of this almanac, and a significant development beyond the primarily astronomically based approach of Eduard Seler and other predecessors. Nowotny studied Anthropology, Philosophy, and Art History at the University of Vienna. In 1939 he completed his Ph D thesis and graduated. He participated in military service in World War II and after being released from a prisoner-of-war camp in 1947 he took an assistant position at the Museum of Ethnology in Vienna (Museum für Völkerkunde). He progressed to become a custodian at the museum and also chair of its Department for Central and South America. In 1954 Nowotny finished his habilitation thesis and in addition to working in the museum he began lecturing at the University of Vienna. (According to one source he was promoted to professor at the University of Vienna in 1953.) In 1965 he received the rank of "University Professor Extraordinary." In 1964-1965 he held an interim (visiting) professorship at the Department of Anthropology and African Studies at the University of Mainz. From 1965 to 1977 he was a visiting professor at the University of Cologne. After his return to Vienna he gained a full professorship at the University of Vienna, where he lectured not only on Anthropology but also on ancient American cultures. He specialised in studying ancient Mexican cultures and their historical documents. In 1966 Nowotny took up a visiting professorship at the Department of Social and Cultural Anthropology in Cologne. He also he conducted a number of research projects on several ethnic groups on in Northern and Central America. In 1977 he returned to Vienna, where he died in 1978 at the age of 74. In his articles published in the German periodicals Tribus and Indiana between 1972 and 1974, the German academic Thomas Barthel supported the concept of 'information coding' in Mesoamerican manuscripts. For this approach he drew heavily on the writings of Friedrich Röck (and also Karl Nowotny). Thomas Barthel founded the Indo-Mexican Institute at Tübingen. Thomas Barthel was born on January 4, 1923 in Berlin. He was the son of Max Barthel, a socialist poet. During WWII Barthel worked as decoder for the German Forces - his later scientific interest in deciphering sign systems is considered to be directly related to his wartime work. In 1946 Barthel studied Völkerkunde in Berlin with Richard Thurnwald and Sigrid Westphal-Hellbusch, as well as Geography with Albrecht Haushofer. In 1949 he studied Ethnology in Leipzig with Julius and Eva Lips. Finally, he moved to Hamburg (to study with Franz Termer), where he finished his PhD in 1952 on the Dresden Maya Manuscript. Together with Ursula Schlenther, Wolfgang Haberland and Günter Zimmerman, Barthel formed part of the so called Hamburg School of Old Americanists. In 1957/1958 he carried out field research in Atacamenos/Chile, as well as on Easter Island. In 1965/1966 he worked in Mexico, 1970 in Peru. Barthel habilitated in Hamburg (1957/1958) on the Easter Island Scripture (Rongorongo) and in 1959 Tübingen University appointed him an extraordinary professor. From 1964 to 1988 Barthel led the new Institute for Ethnologie in Tübingen. After the traumatic GAA-Conference of 1969 in Göttingen (which was partly related to the accusations of German complicity with the genocide on Brazilian indians), Barthel chaired a commission to shed light on the accusations. He died on April 3, 1997 in Tübingen. Vienna pre WWII was the centre of the diffusionist school which developed out of the ideas of Wilhelm Schmidt (1868-1954). Friedrich Röck was not a member of the diffusionist school. Neither was Karl Karl Nowotny. See the the foreword by Ferdinand Anders in (the edited English-language translation) Tlacuilolli by Karl Nowotny (2005, original German-language publication 1961). In this book, Nowotny offers informed alternatives to the astral interpretations of Eduard Seler and his students. Nowotny opposed the type of speculative approach engaged in by Röck. Ferdinand Anders writes (Foreward, Page XIII): "Nowotny's avoidance of fantastic attempted interpretations and contrived conjectures lasted throughout his life's work. His words provide a warning that the works of Eduard Seler, translated in the past into English and Spanish, are to be understood as a collection of historic sources and should not be the impetus for new attempts at astral decipherment ... Again may we never forget Nowotny's urgent warning against easy and false conclusions." The main academic figures comprising an influential stream of comprising the Viennese Mythological School, including Karl von Spiess, promoted a theory of the ritualistic origin of myths in ancient cults and their secret societies and their survival in contemporary folklore (i.e., stories and customs). It would be surprising if Hertha von Dechend was not aware of these ideas. For some adherents of the Viennese School of Mythology ancient cultures had secret societies whose members retained knowledge which later survived as legends, folk stories, and folk customs. This provided another 'well' of ideas which Hertha von Dechend could draw upon. Part 10: Some Books and Articles Influenced by Hamlet's Mill "Wilderness No Wilderness." by Norman Newton (Canadian Literature, Number 63, Winter, 175, Pages 18-34). [Note: Republished in Canadian Literature, 8 December, 2011. The title of the article is sometimes incorrectly given as "Wilderness To Wilderness." Life dates for Canadian-born Norman Newton (an actor, radio playwright, radio producer, and writer/literary figure) are: 1929-2011.] At the Edge of History (1989) by William Thompson. The Myth of Replacement: Stars, Gods, and Order in the Universe (1991) by Thomas Worthen. The Death of Gods in Ancient Egypt: An Essay on Egyptian Religion and the Frame of Time (1992; 2nd edition, 2003) by Jane Sellers. The Secret of the Incas: Myth, Astronomy, and the War Against Time (1996) by William Sullivan. (Though erroneous, Sullivan's thesis is more coherent than that presented by von Dechend in Hamlet's Mill.) From Deluge to Discourse: Myth, History, and the Generation of Chinese Tradition (1996) by Deborah Porter. (N. J. Girardot (2002) asserts: "Recent archaeoastronomical methods especially draw upon the multicultural and interdisciplinary insights of Giorgio de Santillana and Hertha von Dechend's Hamlet's Mill ...." This is likely an example of such. Its weaknesses are obvious. It seems unnecessary to invoke Hamlet's Mill as a basis for making astronomical interpretations of early Chinese literature. On a number of occasions an astronomical basis is claimed internally within within early period Chinese literature.) Homer's Secret Iliad (1999) by Florence and Kenneth Wood. Mysteries of the Sacred Universe (2000) by Richard Thompson. Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy (2003) by Richard Thompson. (A clear demonstration that very clever people can write very strange books.) When They Severed Earth From Sky (2004) by Elizabeth Barber and Paul Barber. "Time Cycles in Indian Mythology." by Roopa Naragan. (No publication details identified to date). Homer's Secret Odyssey (2011) by Florence and Kenneth Wood. The Mathisen Corollary (2011) by David Mathisen. (The author is another amateur 'tub thumping' historian promoting their brand of pseudo-history.) The strange case of David Mathisen Interestingly, Mathisen (who views himself as a good analyst of material) tends to stamp his authority by describing himself as an author (but has lately started to call himself an historian). Mathisen is confident he has things correctly worked out (whereas lots of other people have misinterpreted the evidence). In his 'blogspot' dated Friday, January 20, 2012 he talks about his success at correctly understanding the issues and my 'failure' to do so. As example, Mathisen assures that the Erra Epic does really contain an account of precession as claimed in Hamlet's Mill. It is a classic case of claim by a non-expert without any evidence being offered - a subjective opinion only; the same as the nature of the claim by the authors of Hamlet's Mill! (The entire basis/framework of Hamlet's Mill is subjective opinion.) No need for assyriologists and cuneiform philologists! Mathisen does absolutely nothing to establish his credentials as a reliable expert voice. He does not cite any experts in the field who support his claims and he does not cite any experts in the field who support his claim to expertise. He simply makes a claim. Using the 'vacuum cleaner' technique he combines disparate ideas - Hamlet's Mill ideas with the Hydroplate Theory of creationist Walter Brown (who has a PhD in Mechanical Engineering). J. Hicks has made the point (Amazon Customer Reviews) that this type of theory has been previously promoted by (amateur historians) Alan Alford and Ian Wilson. The paperback edition is published in the USA by Beowulf Books. Googling the company profile for the USA reveals Beowulf Publishing Group, Inc. has an annual revenue of $140,000 and employs a staff of approximately 2. David Mathisen has also conducted a pseudo-review/assessment of this web page. His personal and biased reading leads to specious remarks and insubstantial comments. His reply (certainly not rebuttal) to my critique comprises selective misrepresentations of my critique. It's a manipulative piece of writing. Like many pseudo-historians he attempts to dictate the terms of evidence and set an expectation that if critics don't produce a short 'killer argument' (that is to his satisfaction) then there is no suitable case to be made. Amusingly he writes (his 'blogspot' dated Friday, January 20, 201): "It is somewhat ironic that Gary David Thompson accuses the authors (he is especially critical of von Dechend) of being disorganized, saying: "The contents of the book are poorly organised and presented. The book contains an immense amount of loosely related information but there is no persuasive evidence presented for the connections being made." Ironic because Mr. Thompson's essay can also be accurately described as containing an "immense amount of loosely related information." The first 2/3 of his essay reads like a disjointed recitation of everything that came out of a very vigorous web search, with no explanation as to the significance of the information, how it is connected, or why Mr. Thompson included it at all (or why the reader would be interested in learning it). I am not sure why the room number of lectures from the 1960s or the times that seminars met is important to his argument at all, nor why I should want to know which airport Dr. de Santillana flew out of on a trip to Europe. In fact, the first part of Mr. Thompson's criticism of the authors of Hamlet's Mill recalls the ad campaign describing an imaginary syndrome called "search overload," in which jumbles of information without any context would be recited by a character in a trance-like state, to humorous effect (... -- the first half of the article suffers from the same problem). I can only believe that Mr. Thompson included all of that very detailed information about the personalities and lives of de Santillana and von Dechend as a giant ad hominem attack that is supposed to discredit them and dissuade anyone from reading their work. I do not believe that is a good way to determine whether or not someone's analysis has merit -- I believe it is much more important to examine the person's analysis itself and make a judgment that way. I believe it is quite unfair to attack the author, as if there are any human authors about whom you cannot find plenty to criticize. ... Of course I do not agree with every sentiment espoused by de Santillana and von Dechend, nor with every aspect of their own personal belief systems or with everything they did during their lifetimes. But to mock them for things they did or believed during the decades that they lived (which were very different times in the world of academia than those of today or of the past couple decades) is both uncharitable and unhelpful." The failure to take into account the beliefs and intentions of the authors cripples any assessment of how the book was actually cobbled together (i.e., constructed). No one has really previously bothered to understand and explore this most fruitful path of inquiry. On Page 1 of my website I carefully have explained for a decade that all my posted essays can be considered drafts. I also wrote on Page 1 that "Criticisms are given in the spirit of honest inquiry." Also, On Page 1 of my website I clearly state: "The posted essays are draft form only and will be subject to revision as time permits. Several comprise little more than a rough draft and the "roughest" are flagged as being "under construction." (Revisions or additions to essays are incorporated without extensive rewriting.)" Now that I am finally semi-retired (beginning November, 2012) I have recently taken the time to initially reorganise aspects of my web site, including this critique. See below for a repeat of this point. Why vigorous web searching is an issue with Mathisen is unclear. Perhaps he believes the marvellous convenience of the web for uncovering and assembling details should not be used in legitimate research! Having spent 10-20 hours per week for some 20 years, systematically working library shelves to uncover material I will opt for the convenience of the web. Nowhere does Mathisen recognise that Hamlet's Mill is a reworking of Panbabylonism. He is also obviously uneasy regarding any detailed background information on de Santillana and von Dechend being assembled. An example of his distortions and sleight of hand is illuminating. In a demonstration of over-confidence he manufactures a case. In his 'blogspot' dated Friday, January 20, 2012, Mathisen includes this comment in his pseudo-review/assessment of this web page: "He brings up a book by William Thompson which interprets the fairy tale of Rapunzel as "involving the sun and moon and the planetary motion of Mercury, Venus and Mars." This interpretation is not dealt with directly (in other words, no argument is offered to demonstrate that Rapunzel is not about celestial bodies) but rather is "discredited" by saying that William Thompson knew Hertha von Dechend and that she "discussed her ideas on ancient mythology and astronomy with him at their lunches in the student cafeteria." This does not discredit the thesis of Hamlet's Mill at all either! In fact, the possibility that Rapunzel contains such information is further validation of their thesis (Hamlet's Mill cites several cases in which folk tales appear to contain the same celestial information as epics and sagas contain, but using more "rustic" characters such as the farmer's cat instead of great heroes or warriors). I have compared this to actors who appear in very different costumes in different movies or plays, but who are the same actors." Ignored by Mathisen is the fact that the onus is on William Thompson to convincingly prove his case. Thompson does not. He makes it obvious that he is involved in speculation. For example he frequently writes such sentences as: "If Rapunzel is Venus, Frau Gothel the Moon, and the Prince Mars, then one suspects that the mother must be Mother Earth .... If my interpretation of the tale is valid. (Imaginary Landscape, Page 37.)" I mention William Thompson in a number of contexts. This is completely ignored by Mathisen. In relation to Mathisen's distortive quote my larger argument is (also see above): "Astronomical interpretations of mythology (often incorporating precession as the "key") have been extensively promoted in numerous books published between circa 1880 and 1930. Historically, proponents of a scheme of astronomical mythology (nearly always based on an equally divided 12-constellation zodiac) have ceaselessly demonstrated that it is possible to incorporate a diverse and differing range of astronomical data into their interpretations. Almost all the authors interpret the same mythology or epics with different astronomical data i.e., identify different astronomical phenomenon. Simply, an "astro-mythic" scheme can bear several several interpretations. (It is also interesting to see the apparently Jungian "astro-mythic" slant given to Hebrew mythology by Tom Chetwynd in his The Age of Myth (1991).) Such multitude of divergence indicates that the methodology is flawed or that the interpretations are forced. In a nutshell: The problem is no "astronomical key" has been identified - as is evidenced by the diverse astronomical methods of interpretation. This facilitates the criticism that often the method(s) of "astro-mythic" interpretation is perhaps not a method after all. A reasonable analogy would perhaps be the elaborate "Bacon is Shakespeare" ciphers that have been "discovered". What stands out is the fact that the coding systems and underlying identification messages are never the same. The 2 volumes by Ignatius Donnelly titled The Great Cryptogram (1888) are a prime example. John Nicolson's book No Ciphers in Shakespeare (1888) showed that the cipher scheme "discovered" by Ignatius Donnelly can be used to produce any required result. Likewise, elements within a single scheme of astronomical mythology can produce several variant interpretations. The problem is illustrated by two "recent" publications using the same tale in the context of Hamlet's Mill (1969). They are Heavens Unearthed in Nursery Rhymes and Fairy Tales by Matt Kane (1999) and Imaginary Landscapes: Making Worlds of Myth and Science by William Thompson (1989). Both authors refer to Hamlet's Mill: An Essay on Myth and the Frame of Time. In "Chapter 5: Rumpelstiltskin" of Kane's book he interprets the tale as a lunar myth. In "Chapter 1: Rapunzel: Cosmology Lost" of Thompson's book he interprets the tale as involving the sun and moon and the planetary motion of Mercury, Venus and Mars. (William Thompson was a colleague of Hertha von Dechend when she was at MIT. Both were in the Department of Humanities. He was at MIT from 1965 to 1968; Associate Professor of Humanities (i.e., Associate Professor of Literature) from 1966. At his current website (2010) he states that Hertha von Dechend discussed her ideas on ancient mythology and astronomy with him at their lunches in the student cafeteria. The version by John Ebert in his book Twilight of the Clockwork God 1999) is distortive.) A successful theory is such because it can best fit all the known facts. Also, within each of the sciences a single controlling theory tends to dominate. Two opposing theories which can use similar starting points but arrive at different explanative outcomes to fit the facts need to be given further investigation before one is accepted (with or without modification) or neither is accepted. It is also really up to the proponents of an idea to reasonably establish their case - including answering all reasonable criticisms raised. The content of the speculations of the above-mentioned authors, however, apart from the premises which enable them, are essentially in conflict. Relative harmony would be a better indicator of the reliability of the "astro-mythic" method. What perhaps would also be more credible is an astronomical interpretation that did not incorporate a scheme of ancient zodiacal constellations to prop the "precession in mythology" approach. The nature of the claims for precessional mythology (invariably based on a conjectured ancient 12-constellation zodiac of 12 equal divisions) require that any difficult facts arising from such need to be critically discussed and myopic approaches avoided. We need to separate conviction from science and to ensure we satisfactorily do such we should not disable our skepticism. According to Bill Lauritzen (The Invention of God: The Origins of Religious and Scientific Thought, 2007), much of Hamlet's Mill can be interpreted as describing volcanic and geological processes." So much for Mathisen's investigative accuracy! I remain curious whether this example of shoddiness typifies his book. It is also doubtful whether he has read Imaginary Landscape. I think not. Mathisen has failed to identify that until 28/1/2012 I spelled 'Imaginary' in the title erroneously as 'Imaginery.' The relevant part of Mathisen's reply posted to Graeme Hancock's 'Message Boards' on 29/1/2012. Once again, his distortions and sleight of hand is interesting.: "Interesting that he doesn't seem to really confront my arguments but after quoting my discussion immediately returns to attacks on the arguments of William Thompson, Tom Chetwynd, etc. I don't really see any substantive discussion of any of the points I raised about his main criticism of the argument in Hamlet's Mill but I believe that if he or anyone else reads my book I present quite a lot of evidence. I will leave it up to readers of his article to determine if he is being ad hominem in his arguments against Hertha von Dechend and Giorgio de Santillana or not, but I would say that his description of me as a "another amateur 'tub thumping' historian promoting their [sic -- this is a grammatical error on Thompson's part] brand of pseudo-history" certainly feels a little "ad hominem" to me. What Mathisen apparently fails to understand - or perhaps simply chooses to ignore - is the very obvious fact that my critique includes the attempt to recover all information known about de Santillana and von Dechend. It appears that if Mathisen is not interested in such then nobody else should be! What Mathisen apparently fails to understand - or simply ignores - is the very obvious fact that my critique includes the attempt to recover all information known about de Santillana and von Dechend. Even supporters of Hamlet's Mill, such as Walter Cruttenden and Phil Norfleet, take critical biographical information I have uncovered and use it (without credit to me). (Walter Cruttenden is quite happy to refer to de Santillana as being somewhat mystical.) His conclusion that "I remain curious whether this example of shoddiness typifies his book" also throws around fairly loaded terms -- the example of "shoddiness" he cites appears to be the fact that I do not specifically mention a book by Bill Lauritzen published in 2007 entitled The Invention of God: The Origins of Religious and Scientific Thought." This type/style of defensive posturing is a clear indication of lack of substance and ability to deal with specific critical comment. Though I make it clear that my limited comments are restricted to an example, Mathisen ignores this. However, he reinforces my case in the context of his further comments. Once again his personal and biased reading leads to specious remarks and insubstantial comments. It is interesting that Mathisen sets out that when he criticises he is discussing but when I point out correctives or criticise I am attacking. Regarding the supposed grammatical error. A wider command of English would have identified that I am following the increasingly common use of 'their,' even though not accepted by strict grammarians. Throughout my website I also use the increasingly common BCE, even though B.C. is insisted upon by strict grammarians. Perhaps in more formal essays. Another supporter of Hamlet's Mill and also David Mathisen, who names himself/herself 'drrayeye', posted to Graeme Hancock's 'Message Boards' on 9/1/2012: "Dave (dwm) took the time to respond in detail to the substance of the "debunking." I didn't see any need to go further. Without agreeing or disagreeing, I'd have required a complete rewrite before I even edited it. You weren't the first and you probably won't be the last to have concerns. Giving him (and you) the greatest benefit of the doubt, I'd say that you both have concerns/questions about Hamlet's Mill that might be worth exploring further if they were better expressed. In astonomical (sic) terms, that's several light years away from debunking." However, my original essay was somewhat loosely divided into a biographical first part and a second part comprising the critique. Thought the first part was originally somewhat loosely written the second part was not. It formed a cogent case against Hamlet's Mill. This person 'drrayeye' also seems reluctant to investigate much. Possibly he can't - it is outside of his ability. Better perhaps to find any way to avoid any comment instead of exposing one's lack of knowledge. Amusingly, 'drrayeye' has earlier resorted (Graham Hancock website, 11/10/2007) to an ad hominem attack on myself and demanded from me a standard that is excluded for Graham Hancock! According to 'drrayeye' The sheer evasiveness of the posting by 'drrayeye' is a continuing demonstration of the absence of critical/scientific method by believers in alternative history. I identify myself, give part of my educational background. "Drrayeye' does not identify himself/herself and does not give any information about their educational background. Though my material is posted on my website, and this is how 'drrayeye' accessed it, 'drrayeye' sets out that my arguments need not be dealt with unless they are published in a peer-reviewed journal. This means that 'drrayeye' should stop posting arguments and comment unless in a peer reviewed journal. But 'drrayeye' seems happy to support Graham Hancock even though Graeme Hancock has no qualifications for the topics he deals with and also has no articles on his alternative history ideas published in a peer reviewed journal. The failure to understand and establish objective standards enables the carnival of ideas to be kept in place. On Page 1 of my website I clearly state: "The posted essays are draft form only and will be subject to revision as time permits. Several comprise little more than a rough draft and the "roughest" are flagged as being "under construction." (Revisions or additions to essays are incorporated without extensive rewriting.)" This Hamlet's Mill devotee has a very closed mindset. Not only is he keen to find any reason to ignore/dismiss the only detailed critique of Hamlet's Mill on the web but, at the same time, he is quite prepared to struggle with the atrociously written book which fails to provide a coherent argument, and (undeniably) should have been subject to rigorous editing. The strength of their wishful thinking has created immunity against criticisms and an unwillingness to deal with contrary findings of mythologists, philologists, archaeologists, and geologists (unless in an evasive manner). It is increasingly my experience that supporters/advocates of Hamlet's Mill, both amateur and academic, have uncritical acceptance of its themes and hostility towards any critics. The recovery of details of the de Santillana-von Dechend period at MIT, and their personalities, in order to gain an insightful interpretation is apparently not not wanted or appreciated by Mathisen and ilk. However, no one is above critique and no one can survive inspection for perfection. Why and how the authors formed their ideas is important and is discoverable. Unsurprisingly they did not attempt an impartial approach to the topic. These supporters/advocates also fail to realise that nearly half a century on since its publication they have still not met the case made against the book by competent critics. It is simply part of the responsibility of an historian, whether professional or amateur, to publish as much as can be gleaned about the development process for Hamlet's Mill. It seems that for supporters it is about maintaining the mythical status of the authors, viewed as a hero and a heroine. The only apparent purpose of Mathisen's self-proclaimed 'rebuttal' seems to be to give assurance to laypersons unable to understand and/or apply basic principals of critical thinking. Mathisen forgets to include any reason why he is an expert on all the issues he supports. He has not indicated any attempt to independently investigate critical sources quoted to gather a more detailed understanding. Interestingly, there is no real indication that Mathisen has bothered/will bother to do any critical investigation of pro and con issues. I still await a serious 'rebuttal' attempt from David Mathisen. Part 11: The Origin of the Nature Myth School Max Müller The German scholar Max Müller in the 19th-century defined myths as metaphors/allegories for solar phenomena. Max Müller (1823-1900) was a Sanskrit scholar and philologist, and professor at Oxford, who founded the study of comparative religion. He was one of the founders of comparative myth investigation and also of the nature school of interpretation of myths. Max Müller was very influential for the entire 2nd-half of the 19th-century. During the 1850s and 1860s Müller proposed a number of philologically-based theories on the nature of Aryan mythology. His ideas saw the establishment of an influential school of comparative mythology/folklore research ("nature myth movement") which abruptly- and almost completely - disappeared around the turn of the 20th-century. There were several notable exceptions. One exception was Wilhelm Schwartz (Friedrich Leberecht Wilhelm Schwartz, 1821-1899) who continued to vigorously promote nature myth interpretations (see his: Ursprung der stamm- und gru¨ndungssage Roms unter dem reflex indogermanischer mythen (1898)). Another exception was Georg Hüsing who held that all myths were solar myths (see his: Contributions to the Kyros Myth (1906)). (The discrediting of nature mythology coincided with the growth of anthropology based on field observation in a single culture. An exception was Georges Dumézil, who compared structure, not etymology.) Müller was an ardent solar mythologist who thought that nearly all myths were symbolic/allegorical stories about the rising and setting sun, light and darkness, and the seasons. Some followers of Müller's approach quickly modified the original theory and espoused nature mythology. Myths were explanations of meteorological and cosmological phenomena. In this view deities were associated with one or more natural phenomena such as clouds and thunderstorms. Comparative mythology in the 19th-century was driven by the wide acceptance of interpretations of myths as natural phenomena, primarily the sun and moon, etc. Aldabert Kuhn Slightly prior to Max Muller the German philologist and folklorist Franz [Aldabert] Kuhn (1812-1881) was an important early adherent of nature mythology. In the 19th-century Adalbert Kuhn and Wilhelm Schwartz (also misspelled Schwarz), and also Carl Muellehoff, held to a "meteorological theory" of folklore. They believed that folklore/myths could be traced to the deification of thunderstorms, lightning, and winds. Kuhn made important contributions to comparative philology, and is regarded as the founder of the science of comparative Indo-Germanic mythology. From 1841 he was connected with the Kollnisches Gymnasium at Berlin, and he was appointed its director in 1870. Kuhn was the founder of a new school of comparative mythology, based upon comparative philology. Inspired by Jakob Grimm's Deutsche Mythologie, he initially devoted himself to German stories and legends but his reputation is founded on his later researches into the language and history of the Indo-Germanic peoples as a whole. He maintained that the origin of myths is to be looked for in the domain of language. In the 19th-century Adalbert Kuhn and Wilhelm Schwartz (also misspelled Schwarz), and also Carl Muellehoff, held to a "meteorological theory" of folklore. They believed that folklore/myths could be traced to the deification of thunderstorms, lightning, and winds. However, there was no way to test these theories. Until the growth of anthropology nobody really bothered to investigate living people - the actual sources of many myths - and ask what they thought their myths meant. Ernst Siecke Ernst Siecke (1846-1935) (Germany) Philologist?/Teacher/Author/Editor. His published PhD thesis seems to have been, De Niso et Scylla in Aves mutatis (Scripsit Ernestus Siecke, 1884, 15 pages). At head of title: Wissenschaftliche beilage zum Programm des Friedrichs-gymnasiums. Ostern [Easter?] 1884. - "Programm no. 56." Ernst Siecke was a teacher, a member of the staff of a prestigious Berlin high school, Friedrichs-Gymnasium. He was a proponent of the German Volk and was openly anti-Semitic, but not openly anti-Semitic towards Jewish students in his classes. (See: The Crisis of German Ideology: Intellectual Origins of the Third Reich by George Mosse (1981, Page 156). Also: Die Judenfrage und der Gymnasiallehrer by Ernst Siecke (1880).) It appears likely that Siecke was a follower of Adolf Stöcker. Adolf Stöcker (1835-1909) was the court chaplain to Kaiser Wilhelm II, a politician, and a German Lutheran theologian who founded one of the first Christian Social Gospel political parties in Germany, the (anti-Semitic) Christian Social Party. He found that he could attract more followers to his conservative Christian Social political movement by attacking the Jews in Germany. The German folklorist Ernst Siecke was the real founder and most active supporter of the star-myth movement. In 1892 Siecke published his Liebesgeschichte des Himmels. This was the first of his many books and pamphlets supporting an astronomical interpretation of mythology. The result of his publications was that interest in star myths generally and the particular interest in Babylon had a mutual affect on each other and resulted in their combining together. Ernst Siecke interpreted Indo-Germanic mythology as a struggle between the sun and the moon. According to Joseph Campbell (Flight of the Wild Geese, 2002, Page 199), Siecke followed the lead of Max Müller and cogitated on the lunar phases and the interplay of sun and moon. It appears that Max Müller was an influence on Siecke's early star myth books/monographs, Die Liebesgeschichte des Himmels (1892) and Die Urreligion der Indogermanen (1897). Both these publications supported "Panlunarism." The Star-Myth Movement laid emphasis on the predominant importance of the Moon ("Panlunarism") and also the sun. Siecke identified that the number 9 occurs conspicuously in numerous moon sagas and saw its origin in an ancient application in time division. See also Siecke's early publication: Beiträge zur genaueren Erkenntnis der Mondgottheit bei den Griechen (1885). (Note: The title also appears as: Beiträge zur genaueren Kenntnis der Mondgöttin bei den Griechen (1885). Eduard Stucken also likely followed the nature-myth theories of Max Müller. Part 12: Viktor Rydberg Abraham Victor Rydberg (1828-1895) a Swedish writer (author, journalist, poet and novelist) has both enthusiastic supporters (who consider him an early authority on Teutonic/Germanic myth) and informed detractors consider him speculative and subjective. He has been described as "Primarily a classical idealist" and "Sweden's last Romantic." He first attracted attention with his novel The Doctrine of Christ According to the Bible (1859). He was highly regarded as a novelist was regarded as one of Sweden's leading literary figures. The focus for his detractors is his Teutonic Mythology (2 volumes, 1886-1889). (See: Undersökningar i germanisk mythologi, första delen (1886), (Investigations into Germanic Mythology, Volume I), translated 1889; Undersökningar i germanisk mythologi, andre delen (1889), (Investigations into Germanic Mythology, Volume 2, Parts 1 & 2). It is stated that Rydberg started Teutonic Mythology as an attempt to save the Old Norse Eddaic myths from allegations of Christian and Classical influence. He then began to form the idea that they were not only very ancient but also fragments of a vast and coherent mythical epic. He then laboured for almost a decade trying to reconstruct and prove this epic. The results set out in the volumes comprising Teutonic Mythology were largely dismissed by other scholars as his poetical imaginations. "The main thesis in Undersokningar is that the originally individual myths were arranged in an epical chain, starting with chaos and creation, and ending with Ragnarok and the new creation, during the Neolithic period (the oldest Indo-European age, according to Rydberg. Rydberg sees the epical chain as the essence of the Teutonic and Indo-Iranian mythologies. He probably got this idea from the Old Norse poem Völuspá, which contains a kind of eschatological epos. The focus on apocalypse and eschatology in the ancient Iranian religion probably also inspired him. (Viktor Rydberg och den jämförande indoeuropeiska religionshistorien = Viktor Rydberg and the comparative study of the history of Indo-European religion by Anna Lindén (2004, Doktorand, Lund University))" From 1838 to 1847 Rydberg went to school in Jönköping where he attended the Vaxjö Superior School (= Grammar School), and afterwards he studied law at the University of Lund for 1 year (1851-1852). Lack of funds compelled him to quite the University of Lund without completing a degree. He then became a private tutor. At the age of 27 he was befriended by the editor of "Goteborgs Handels - och Sjöfartstidning" and appointed as a contributor to the newspaper. Over a period of 20 years he wrote articles on a variety of subjects for the newspaper, as well as short stories and serialised novels. From 1870 to 1872, Rydberg was a member of the Swedish Parliament as a supporter of the Peasant's Party. For his lifetime of literary achievement, Rydberg received an honorary doctorate from the University of Uppsala. In 1888 ("The New York Times" obituary has 1877) he was elected a member of the Swedish Academy. In 1889, he was also elected a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. Starting 1883 he was a teacher, then from 1884 ("The New York Times" obituary has 1877) he was appointed professor, of the History of Culture at the Superior School of Stockholm (högskola), now Stockholm University, and from 1889 as the first holder of the J. A. Berg Chair of the History and Theory of Art, also at Stockholm University. Between 1886 and 1889, his literary work was focused on Norse and broader Germanic mythology. Rydberg identified the mill in the sea (the Ocean-Mill) with the "world-mill ("heavenly-mill/"cosmic-mill")" of Scandinavian mythology, which supposedly produced the regular motion of the starry sky and also of the sea (the Maelstrom). (See his: Investigations into Germanic Mythology (1886).) The "world-mill" involves the analogy of the rotating sky and a rotating mill. Rydberg's conjecture of a world mill turning the constellations has been taken up in Hamlet's Mill and given a central focus. Henrik Schück wrote at the turn of the 20th-century that he considered Viktor Rydberg the "last - and poetically most gifted - of the mythological school founded by Jacob Grimm and represented by such men as Adalbert Kuhn" which is very synthetic in approach to understanding of myth. Part 13: Traditional Diffusionism versus Dynamic Cultural Interaction Development of Diffusionism Gold, Daniel. (2003)."Explaining Together: The Excitement of Diffusionist Ideas." In: Gold, Daniel. Aesthetics and Analysis in Writing on Religion: Modern Fascinations: "This chapter traces the fate of some British and German diffusionist theories in the early twentieth century and reveals how explanatory hypotheses really can provide common grounds for working groups, even if these dissolve and become forgotten, as their hypotheses have been proven false. Diffusion theories appeared in the first few decades of the twentieth century, positing diversity among human cultures. Radical diffusionist projects were often promoted by just one or two people taken up with a daring new idea about the origin and spread of cultures. Championed by outspoken proponents able to arouse an initial exhilaration among a group of colleagues, these ideas have led to collaborative work that eventually petered out. In contrast to interpretive phenomenological visions, diffusionist explanations provided concrete programs of collective research. In the study of early cultures and civilizations at the turn of the twentieth century, diffusion vied with evolution as a concept that could explain the similarities found in the lifeways of diverse peoples." Diffusionism attempts to understand culture in terms of the origin of culture traits and their spread from one society to another. Early versions of diffusionist thought included the conviction that all cultures originated from one culture center (heliocentric diffusion); the view that cultures originated from a limited number of culture centers (culture circles); and the notion that each society is influenced by others but that the process of diffusion is both contingent and arbitrary. Diffusionist research originated in the middle of the 19th-century when some scholars attempted to understand the nature of culture and whether it spread to the rest of the world from few or many innovation centers. Among the major questions was whether human culture had spread from innovation centers by diffusion. The diffusionist approach was slowly replaced by studies concerning acculturation, patterns of culture, and the relation between culture and personality. By World War I, diffusionism was also being challenged by the newly emerging Functionalist school of thought lead by Bronislaw Malinowski (1884-1942; a Polish-born British-naturalized anthropologist) and Alfred [A. R.] Radcliffe-Brown (1881-1955; British anthropologist). They argued that even if one could produce evidence of imported aspects of culture in a society, the original culture trait might be so changed that it served a completely different function that the society from which it diffused. A more holistic approach, stemming from the play of diffusionism against evolutionism, has provided a more adequate understanding of the overall picture. In the 1920s, Franz Boas (1858-1942; German-American anthropologist and a pioneer of modern anthropology) and other American anthropologists, such as Robert Lowie (1883-1957; Austrian-born American anthropologist) and Ralph Linton (1893-1953; American cultural anthropologist), argued that cultural change had been influenced by many different sources. They argued against the attempted grand reconstruction of both evolutionists and diffusionists. The German anthropologists tended to be extreme diffusionsists. German and Austrian diffusionists argued that there were a number of culture centers, rather than just one, in the ancient world. Culture traits diffused, not as isolated elements, but as a whole culture complex, basically due to migration of individuals from one culture to another. Their school of thought was dominated by the Catholic clergy, who wanted to reconcile anthropological prehistory and cultural evolution with the Book of Genesis. The Kulturkreise (culture circle) school of thought, was proposed by Friedrich Ratzel, and the concept then widened by his student Leo Frobenius. This version formulated by Leo Frobenius in Vienna was called "culture circles" or Kulturkreise. This concept provided the criteria by which Fritz Graebner would study Oceania at first and two years later cultures on a world-wide basis. This influenced Fritz Graebner at the Berlin Ethnological Museum to write about Kulturkreise in his studies about Oceania, then on a world-wide scale. One of the best known leaders in this attempt was Wilhelm Schmidt, who had studied and written extensively on the relationships between religions of the world. Father Schmidt became a follower of Fritz Graebner, who was also working on a world-wide scale with "culture-circles." After becoming a follower of these ideas Wilhelm Schmidt created his version of the Kulturkriese, and began the journal, Anthropos (official journal of the Anthropos Institute; the journal's scope covers ethnology, linguistics and related human sciences). The "culture circle" concept proposed that a cluster of functionally-related culture traits specific to a historical time and geographical area diffused out of a region in which they evolved. Both Fritz Graebner and Wilhelm Schmidt claimed that they had been able to reconstruct a "limited number of original culture circles." Diffusionism occurred in its most extreme form in the ideas of the British school of thought. William Rivers was the founder of these ideas. His studies were confined to Oceania, where he sought to explain the contrasts between Melanesian and Polynesian cultures by the spread of original complexes, which supposedly had been spread by successive waves of migrating people. He also applied this extreme concept of diffusionism to Australian burial practices. The leading proponent of this extreme diffusionist school was Grafton Elliot Smith. The diffusionist theory proposed by English scholar Grafton Elliot Smith was Egypt was the primary source for many other ancient civilizations. This form of diffusionism is known as heliocentric diffusionism. He claimed that Egypt was the source of culture and that every other major culture in the world was due to diffusion from Egypt, but that a dilution of this civilization occurred as it spread to increasingly greater distances. Key figures include: (1) Freidrich Ratzel (1844-1904) was a German anthropologist who was a significant contributor to 19th-century theories of diffusion and migration. He developed criteria by which the formal, non-functional characteristics of objects could be compared; based on the belief that it would be unlikely that these characteristics would have been simultaneously invented. See: Ratzel, Friedrich (1896 (A. J. Butler, translator); original German publication 1885-88) The History of Mankind. (2) Leo Frobenius (1873-1938) was a German ethnologist and archaeologist, who was the originator of the concepts of the Kulturkreise (culture circles) and of the Paideuma (or "soul" of culture). He lacked formal academic qualifications and was criticized by scientists for his non-systematic and rather romantic approach to anthropology. Frobenius was involved in extensive research in Africa, which was made possible by donors and by his own income from books and lectures. He left school without gaining any formal qualifications because his family moved constantly, and Frobenius did not attend school regularly. For this reason he could not satisfactorily take up his studies at a university but became an autodidact. His PhD thesis was rejected. Leo Frobenius, a pupil of Friedrich Ratzel, expanded on the "culture circle" concept. See: Frobenius, Leo (1898) Die Weltanschauung der Naturvolker. (3) Fritz Graebner (1877-1934) was a German anthropologist, who was a leading diffusionist thinker. He was a cultural diffusionist. Graebner supported the school of "culture circles" (Kulturkreis), which could trace its beginning to Friedrich Ratzel, the founder of anthropogeography. The ideas of Leo Frobenius influenced Fritz Graebner, then at the Berlin Ethnological Museum (1904), to write about culture circles and culture strata in Oceania. Two years later, he applied these concepts to cultures on a world-wide basis. In 1911 he published Die Methode der Ethnologie in which he attempted to establish a criterion for identifying affinities and chronologies, called the Criterion of Form. See: Graebner, Fritz (1911) Die Methode der Ethnologie. (4) William [W. H. R.] Rivers (1864-1922) was a British doctor and psychiatrist who became interested in ethnology after accompanying a Cambridge expedition to the Torres Straits in 1898. He later pursued research in India and Melanesia. Rivers was converted to diffusionism while writing his book, The History of Melanesian Society, and was the founder of the diffusionist trend in Britain. In 1911, He was the first to speak out again social evolutionism (later linked with independent invention). See: Rivers, W. H. R. (1922) History and Ethnology. (5) Wilhelm Schmidt (1868-1954), born a German citizen but became an Austrian national, was a Catholic priest in Germany/Austria and an ethnologist who studied the religions of the world and wrote extensively on their inter-relationship (Barnard 1996:589). At about the same time that Fritz Graebner (1906) was applying the culture-circle and culture-strata ideas on a worldwide scale, Father Schmidt help to promote these ideas, began the journal Anthropos, and created his own version of the Kulturkriese. Although both Fritz Graebner and Wilhelm Schmidt believed that all culture traits diffused out of a limited number of original culture circles, Father Schmidt's list of Kreise (culture circles) was the most influential. (6) Sir Grafton Elliot Smith (1871-1937) was a prominent British anatomist, and William [W. J.] Perry (1868-1949) (British geographer and anthropologist), a student of William Rivers, hypothesized that the entire cultural inventory of the world had, after the advent of navigation, diffused from Egypt. The development began in Egypt, according to them, about 6,000 years ago and was spread during Egyptian migrations by land and sea. See: Smith, Grafton Elliot (1928) In the Beginning: The Origin of Civilization; and Smith, Grafton Elliot (1933) The Diffusion of Culture. Hamlet's Mill and the Nature Myth School and Diffusionism The early diffusionist model is adhered to in Hamlet's Mill. Hamlet's Mill reverts back to (1) the basic approach introduced by the founders of the "nature myth school" of the 19th-century, Aldabert Kuhn and Max Müller, that of philologically based comparative mythology, and (2) the basic method introduced by Eduard Stucken of defining myths by their motifs and comparing motifs between myths to claim parallels. In his book review (The New York Review (of Books), February 12, 1970, Page 36) the anthropologist Edmund Leach writes: "Something like 60 percent of the text is made up of complex arguments about Indo-European etymologies which would have seemed old-fashioned as early as 1870. ... It was proposed by [Aldabert] Kuhn in 1852 that the name Prometheus is a corruption of Sanskrit Pra-mantha, a fire stick. Although this etymology has long ago been completely rejected as linguistically quite impossible ... Hamlet's Mill not only resurrects the equation but gives it enormous elaboration so that Prometheus's fall from celestial grace is made to provide evidence that our ancestors of 6000 years ago could recognize a shifting in the position of the Pole Star!" In his book review (Parabola, Volume III, Issue 1, 1978, Pages 113-115) the folklorist David Leeming writes: "... Hamlet's Mill reads like a parody of nineteenth century scholarship of the German variety." According to the tenets of diffusion/Panbabylonism - and embodied in Hamlet's Mill - is the assumption the more 'developed' culture (i.e., ancient Babylonia) imposes its models (i.e., astronomical knowledge) on a passively receiving neighbouring culture, or neighbouring cultures - and likewise these recipient neighbours do the same - fundamentally because the receiving neighbouring culture have a 'blank slate' on the matter. This ignores the likelihood of a more active process of circulating ideas and constant and creative adaptation being the norm. It is now being realised that it is a trap to ignore the dynamics of cultural interaction and culture-specific mechanisms of adaptation. Dynamic Cultural Interaction Common myth/cult pattern throughout regions of the world has led to various attempts at explanation. The 3 models for consideration are (1) cultural isolationism, (2) cultural diffusion, and (3) dynamic cultural interaction. According to the tenets of diffusion/Panbabylonism it is simply assumed that cultural traits naturally moved from more developed cultures to less developed cultures. The particular diffusionist theory of the Panbabylonists resulted in comparative similarities being held as evidence of borrowings by the younger culture from the older culture. The assumption is the more 'developed' culture (i.e., ancient Babylonia) imposed its models (i.e., astronomical knowledge) on a passively receiving neighbouring culture, or neighbouring cultures - and likewise these recipient neighbours do the same - fundamentally because the receiving neighbouring culture have a 'blank slate' on the matter. This ignores the likelihood of a more active process of circulating ideas and constant and creative adaptation being the norm. It is now being realised that it is a trap to ignore the dynamics of cultural interaction and culture-specific mechanisms of adaptation. A modern approach to the subject of cultural exchange in the ancient world is lucidly set out in When the Gods Were Born: Greek Cosmogonies and the Near East by the Spanish-born scholar Carolina Lopez-Ruiz (2010). The author bypasses traditional diffusionism in preference for a model of cultural exchange which encompasses an active process of circulating ideas and constant and creative adaptation. Convergence in mythology/folklore where myths/tales from totally different sources appear almost identical may simply be due to similar lines of development. However, of interest is Introducing the Mythological Crescent: Ancient Beliefs and Imagery connecting Eurasia and Anatolia by Harald Haarman and Joan Marler (2008). Using examples such as the 'Mother Goddess' and 'Bear Cult' the authors propose an interconnected zone of Paeolithic culture. In the Paeolithic era there was a culturally interconnected zone that reached from Western Europe to Eastern Siberia: "There was a broad cultural region with related traditions of mythical beliefs interconnected by longterm (sic) contacts during prehistoric times. This area - called here the "Mythological Crescent" - is a zone of cultural convergence that extends from the ancient Middle East via Anatolia to Southeastern Europe, opening into the wide cultural landscape of Eurasia." _________________________________________________________________ Return to top of page. _________________________________________________________________ This web page was last updated on: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 1.00 pm. _________________________________________________________________ This web page was created using Arachnophilia 4.0 and FrontPage 2003. _________________________________________________________________ You can reach me here by email: gtosiris.mpx.com.au _________________________________________________________________ Return To Site Contents Page