http://SaturnianCosmology.Org/ mirrored file For complete access to all the files of this collection see http://SaturnianCosmology.org/search.php ========================================================== [From c.leroy ellenberger Tue Apr 13 00:29:41 2010 [Rec: [forwarded] Mon, 12 Apr 2010 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT)] [cleaned up] > From: Ted Bunch > Subject: Re: NEO News (01/02/09) More on Recent Comet Showers > To: c.leroy > Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 4:28 PM Some items to consider: 1) I have attached 4 of the 13 2008 AGU Mtg. abstracts that dealt with various aspects of the YD impact event.  A portion of these abstracts are based on peer review and a Hell of lot of work by the core team of nine. For example, lonsdaleite (hexagonal diamond) that can only form under extreme shock, has been identified from YDB sites as well as high temperature soot (used as evidence in the K/T model for global fires). 2) Leroy, you brought up a timely issue, namely Greenland. Because an editor of a prestigious journal attended the AGU meeting and was so impressed with our presentations, he invited us to submit an in depth article on our recent findings with regard to impact and Northern Hemisphere fire evidence in the Greenland ice sheet. The publication (if accepted) will precede a NOVA special on the subject that will air around April. We have evidence of the impact debris (lonsdaleite and cubic diamonds) and evidence of the North American fires in the Greenland ice. We will report more than one billion nanodiamonds per cc in the YD-age ice with only Greenland ice background amounts above and below the YD layer. 3) Other manuscripts that deal with advanced physical evidence, aerial impact computer simulations, climatology, extinctions, human cultural changes, hyperballistic experiments, and other disciplines are in progress. The SCIENCE brevia is a light introduction for the heavies to come. We are in about the same situation that the Alvarez team was in the mid 80s with respect to the K/T event, when they had good evidence for an impact, but no crater and a lot of detractors. We do not advocate a crater into the ground, there is no evidence for this. An impact or impacts from the largest comet pieces into the Laurentide ice sheet is a better option and one with which we have supportive evidence. The smaller comet pieces may have detonated in the atmosphere, much like a Tunguska event, but with much greater kinetic energy. If we consider a breakup comet, for example Schwassmann-Wachmann, where there are many pieces from hundreds of meters to meters in diameter with a field diameter of ~ 2000 km a field length of 4000km. This scenario could create the 'perfect storm'. The biggest pieces could have sufficient kinetic energy to make sizeable craters in the Laurentide ice sheet, whereas the smaller pieces, widespread over North America, detonated in the atmosphere and did not reach the ground. However, the hot jets from these detonations may have 'torched the ground' and created firestorms. We have evidence (soot, charcoal, admixed with carbon spherules and diamonds) of such firestorms from California through Canada to Europe, even on the Isle of Wight -- all date precisely at 12900 BP. Tunguska has no crater, yet it is accepted as an impact. There are many similarities between Tunguska and our impact hypothesis. No crater, but intense and directional short lived fires (flash heating). None of the typical shock criteria are found, although magnetic spherules, Ir-rich fraction, carbon melt spherules and nanodiamonds are found at Tunguska as well as in the Younger Dryas boundary. One would not expect a crater or shocked minerals in air burst detonations. Computer simulations (Mark Boslough, Sandia Labs) suggest that if the gaseous jet from an aerial detonation hits the ground, the upper few mm may be melted/vaporized as well as flash heating of all vegetation. I will not go into detail with the paleontological observations, only to say that Vance Haynes (a most highly respected geochronologist) and his team have studied 70 sites in North America over the last 30 years and have found that no Clovis points, mammoth, sloth, dire wolf, etc. remains are found above the YDB-black mat layers. In fact, the excavation teams had to scrape-off the black 'gunk' from the remains of these extinct megafauna, i. e., the animals appear to have been immediately covered by these layers. Haynes published a summary of his work at these sites in a paper in PNAS last year. The multitude of carbon melt spherules in the YDB sites contain trillions of nanodiamonds, mostly n-diamonds that are not necessarily made by shock, more likely from melting of carbonaceous matter in the intense fires followed by rapid quenching. The cubic and hexagonal diamonds could have been made via impact into the ice sheet, though some may be ET and survived the impact environment. For every hex diamond, there are 100 cubics and 1000 n-diamonds. There is also the question of where the p-diamonds and i carbon came from, but that is another story. For now, it is sufficient to point out that both of these phases are found only in the YDB and KTB boundaries. FYI, we have looked at carbon spherules from 8 modern fire storms and found no nanodiamonds.  Translation, the YDB event fires were hotter with a much higher quenching rate. Consider, high T flash heating on the ground from an aerial burst at 3000 to 10000 deg C (estimates from Boslough and Crawford and Sorkin) and subsequent under pressure back waves. I must add that we have found cubic, hexagonal, and n-diamonds in the K-T, heretofore unknown. So, what was good for the K-T impact goose, must also be good for the YD impact gander. The K-T event has the same problem as the YD, what was the carbon/carbonaceous reservoir for diamond transformation. Probably not in the impactor, but most likely from dissociated C from the massive carbonates that are present in the geologic column in the Yucatan and under a large portion of the Laurentide ice sheet. Some reputable impact scientists agree that an impact event occurred without knowing much of the information that I have provided here. The questions in debate are how and where. [statistics] Thank you both for your interest and patience with this mini treatise . Comments are welcome-- Ted