"Peratt's scholarly intuition is that 'it would be extremely difficult for a planetary plasmasphere to become opaque enough to entirely blot out the Sun'". Cardona's emphasis. Cardona follows the Peratt quote with: "Thus, together with other evidence which I shall soon be supplying, the conclusion has been reached that, during the Saturnian age of darkness, the Sun was not merely hidden, that is obscured. Like the Moon it was actually absent. -- Greycloud, Sun Sep 28, 2008, blog What Cardona does here is to take the mythological statement about "darkness" and makes it absolute, even though a moment's reflection would suggest that all plant life would come to an end. Even the Popol Vu claims only a "shadow" fell on Earth. But making "darkness" absolute, then eliminates the Sun altogether, if Peratt suggest that it would at least shin ethrough the enclosing plasma. That is _one_ conclusion of the _two_ possibilities. Even Gray Cloud notes: The phrase 'together with other evidence' implies that Peratt's statement is evidence when it is the very opposite, as Peratt implies that the Sun is there.